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Upstate NY / North Country Thread Fall 2010

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adk

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well last year was pretty horrible for the north country....hope we can do better than that.

I had its moments. Personally I had a ton of great BC ski days towards the end of the season in the High Peaks. Sure it wasn't fun to see all the heavy snows directed towards the I-95 corridor but at least it didn't rain very much!

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CNYWeather

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It's too early to judge the upcoming winter, but the signs so far are very negative. La Nina in all it's negative aspects seems to be governing things. Everything wants t drop into the west and we get the scraps. Every modeled trough with good potential on the gfs falls to pieces inside 7 days. We'll get lucky a few times this winter because even in the horrible 05-06 winter I got 62 inches.

HAHA Figures. I've had an excavator in my yard since Sept. WAITING for it to dry out enough to re-dig my pond.

He was gonna wait till the ground froze. Guess I may as well dig it by hand axesmiley.png

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Saggy

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It's too early to judge the upcoming winter, but the signs so far are very negative. La Nina in all it's negative aspects seems to be governing things. Everything wants t drop into the west and we get the scraps. Every modeled trough with good potential on the gfs falls to pieces inside 7 days. We'll get lucky a few times this winter because even in the horrible 05-06 winter I got 62 inches.

I have a bad feeling about this winter too. I've had some winters where I was almost totally shut out IMBY. If this is another one of them it will be back to back dud winters.

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It's too early to judge the upcoming winter, but the signs so far are very negative. La Nina in all it's negative aspects seems to be governing things. Everything wants t drop into the west and we get the scraps. Every modeled trough with good potential on the gfs falls to pieces inside 7 days. We'll get lucky a few times this winter because even in the horrible 05-06 winter I got 62 inches.

The 12Z GFS doesn't even throw us a bone...the last system it depicts on 12/08 goes up across the eastern lakes....and things never trend east.

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JamieOber

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I have a bad feeling about this winter too. I've had some winters where I was almost totally shut out IMBY. If this is another one of them it will be back to back dud winters.

You have never been "almost totally shut out"....that's crap.

Note this:

http://www.erh.noaa....s/011310pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/021110pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/031410pns.htm

That's not "almost totally shut out."

This new board is going to weed out the mentally ill and the little b**ch complainers, so I suggest you watch your step.

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Saggy

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You have never been "almost totally shut out"....that's crap.

Note this:

http://www.erh.noaa....s/011310pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/021110pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/031410pns.htm

That's not "almost totally shut out."

This new board is going to weed out the mentally ill and the little b**ch complainers, so I suggest you watch your step.

Whoa.. I wasn't complaining. There was a year in the late 90's when I just moved into this house when the only measurable snow in my actual back yard..and I mean my literal back yard ...was a 8 inch storm in mid March. I don't live in a lake effect belt so I rely mostly on synoptic. I could see you threatening me if I posted that on the main weather board. I don't get it?

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Wx4cast

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You have never been "almost totally shut out"....that's crap.

Note this:

http://www.erh.noaa....s/011310pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/021110pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/031410pns.htm

That's not "almost totally shut out."

This new board is going to weed out the mentally ill and the little b**ch complainers, so I suggest you watch your step.

Whoa.. I wasn't complaining. There was a year in the late 90's when I just moved into this house when the only measurable snow in my actual back yard..and I mean my literal back yard ...was a 8 inch storm in mid March. I don't live in a lake effect belt so I rely mostly on synoptic. I could see you threatening me if I posted that on the main weather board. I don't get it?

Folks, on easternuswx anyway and so far here on AWx we in the Upstate NY thread tend to be a lot more reserved. Yes we have playful chop busting and even perform a bit of self-deprecating humor, too

Let's try and keep the flaming and assaults out of the thread. Thanks.

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Tornado Girl

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You have never been "almost totally shut out"....that's crap.

Note this:

http://www.erh.noaa....s/011310pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/021110pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/031410pns.htm

That's not "almost totally shut out."

This new board is going to weed out the mentally ill and the little b**ch complainers, so I suggest you watch your step.

Whoa.. I wasn't complaining. There was a year in the late 90's when I just moved into this house when the only measurable snow in my actual back yard..and I mean my literal back yard ...was a 8 inch storm in mid March. I don't live in a lake effect belt so I rely mostly on synoptic. I could see you threatening me if I posted that on the main weather board. I don't get it?

Folks, on easternuswx anyway and so far here on AWx we in the Upstate NY thread tend to be a lot more reserved. Yes we have playful chop busting and even perform a bit of self-deprecating humor, too

Let's try and keep the flaming and assaults out of the thread. Thanks.

I agree with Wx4cast, Everyone on the Upstate thread gets along...joking around is one thing...but insults won't be tolerated...speaking for everyone I request...just forgive and forget... there are better ways to disagree than getting personal. We want to keep this the best thread on AmericanWX.

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Saggy

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Maybe I just need to be more careful with my wording. I called last year a dud...I didn't mean to suggest I got shut out by any means.. according to the links from NOAA I got 40 inches while areas North of me got over 100..it's a perception thing I guess. I'll leave it at that.. have a nice Thanksgiving everybody.

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Tornado Girl

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Maybe I just need to be more careful with my wording. I called last year a dud...I didn't mean to suggest I got shut out by any means.. according to the links from NOAA I got 40 inches while areas North of me got over 100..it's a perception thing I guess. I'll leave it at that.. have a nice Thanksgiving everybody.

Happy Thanksgiving.... don't eat too much :whistle:

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Ottawa Blizzard

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I have to admit that I'm maybe complaining a little too much and maybe my expectations are too high for this winter. I mean the chances of us getting another 2007-2008 or 1970-71 are not that high. Those winters are remembered for a reason; because they stood out and were rare events.

I might not do too badly later this week and it wouldn't surprise me if Ottawa got maybe 2" or something. In many respects, this is classic La Nina. The west is bitterly cold while the east looks to get wildly fluctuating temperatures. I believe 1973-74 and 1974-75 were La Nina winters and both saw wildly swinging tempeartures from one extreme to another.

Here's December 1973: http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?Prov=XX&timeframe=2&StationID=4337&Day=1&Month=12&Year=1973&cmdB1=Go Note how Ottawa had bare ground until December 7 and didn't even see a major snowfall until December 9. Also note at how mild it turned at the end of that December.

Look how warm December 1974 was: http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?Prov=XX&timeframe=2&StationID=4337&Day=1&Month=12&Year=1974&cmdB1=Go

Finally, look at january 1975 and how wild the temperature swings were: http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=XX&StationID=4337&Year=1975&Month=1&Day=1 Take a look, especially at January 19-21. A high of 0C (32F) on the 19th, followed by a high of -21C on the 20th, before a rebound to 0C on the 21st!

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Tornado Girl

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I have to admit that I'm maybe complaining a little too much and maybe my expectations are too high for this winter. I mean the chances of us getting another 2007-2008 or 1970-71 are not that high. Those winters are remembered for a reason; because they stood out and were rare events.

I might not do too badly later this week and it wouldn't surprise me if Ottawa got maybe 2" or something. In many respects, this is classic La Nina. The west is bitterly cold while the east looks to get wildly fluctuating temperatures. I believe 1973-74 and 1974-75 were La Nina winters and both saw wildly swinging tempeartures from one extreme to another.

Here's December 1973: http://www.climate.w...r=1973&cmdB1=Go Note how Ottawa had bare ground until December 7 and didn't even see a major snowfall until December 9. Also note at how mild it turned at the end of that December.

Look how warm December 1974 was: http://www.climate.w...r=1974&cmdB1=Go

Finally, look at january 1975 and how wild the temperature swings were: http://www.climate.w...5&Month=1&Day=1 Take a look, especially at January 19-21. A high of 0C (32F) on the 19th, followed by a high of -21C on the 20th, before a rebound to 0C on the 21st!

Great Infomation...Thanks for sharing

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Organizing Low

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You have never been "almost totally shut out"....that's crap.

Note this:

http://www.erh.noaa....s/011310pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/021110pns.htm

http://www.erh.noaa....s/031410pns.htm

That's not "almost totally shut out."

This new board is going to weed out the mentally ill and the little b**ch complainers, so I suggest you watch your step.

i mean, really?

:lmao:

calm down.

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Organizing Low

Organizing Low

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I have to admit that I'm maybe complaining a little too much and maybe my expectations are too high for this winter. I mean the chances of us getting another 2007-2008 or 1970-71 are not that high. Those winters are remembered for a reason; because they stood out and were rare events.

I might not do too badly later this week and it wouldn't surprise me if Ottawa got maybe 2" or something. In many respects, this is classic La Nina. The west is bitterly cold while the east looks to get wildly fluctuating temperatures. I believe 1973-74 and 1974-75 were La Nina winters and both saw wildly swinging tempeartures from one extreme to another.

Here's December 1973: http://www.climate.w...r=1973&cmdB1=Go Note how Ottawa had bare ground until December 7 and didn't even see a major snowfall until December 9. Also note at how mild it turned at the end of that December.

Look how warm December 1974 was: http://www.climate.w...r=1974&cmdB1=Go

Finally, look at january 1975 and how wild the temperature swings were: http://www.climate.w...5&Month=1&Day=1 Take a look, especially at January 19-21. A high of 0C (32F) on the 19th, followed by a high of -21C on the 20th, before a rebound to 0C on the 21st!

yeah, its way too early to get down on things but the early signs sure arent positive as some have mentioned..

but it still can be an exciting winter....i havent been posting much anywhere because i dont see any signs of anything....until its within a few days on the models, best to keep enthusiasm tempered for now, but as you point out, things can change dramatically, at some point in the future.

i dont mind the nice weather right now to be honest.....its once we get a snowpack going, i dont want to see any rain and mild temps......hopefully thats what happens....but for now, ill take it and enjoy it.

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Danno - I will keep you posted on next week. My wife is having some minor surgery on Tuesday which might affect my trip. I will let you know if I am going to be up or not. We will meet one of these days. Got my fingers crossed for some good LES!

AGREED - Rte. 26 is absolutely brutal with a west wind - all open fields on the west side of the road blowing snow across. Road, what road? Which is what makes SnowRidge the pow capital of the East!

Another great road - Osceola to West Leyden. Forgetabout it! One of the few rural roads over/through the TUG that is kept open in the winter. The whole 15 miles stays close to the 2000' elevation. Also runs E/W like 177 but I gotta say Barnes Corners sees more intense snow than Lowville.

SWA - are we finally going to meet? I'll be up in Redfield from next wednesday for thanksgiving right through 12/5 for fishing and some work on the trails.

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CNYWeather

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My elevation is a lot higher so I guess I would see more in the way of wind....But, I don't think 32 for down in the valley is not too bad at all

I missed the first few years of wind with my station. I was chicken to get up on my roof.

Settled on the garage roof with an extension on the anemometer now.

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CNYWeather

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Winter Weather Advisory

Statement as of 3:26 PM EST on November 24, 2010

...Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 7 PM Thursdayto 4 am EST Friday...

The National Weather Service in Binghamton has issued aWinter Weather Advisory for freezing rain...which is in effect from 7 PMThursday to 4 am EST Friday.

* Locations: western Mohawk Valley.

* Hazards: freezing rain.

* Accumulations: up to a tenth of an inch of ice ispossible

Thursday night.

* Timing: a mix of freezing rain and rain will overspreadthe area

early Thursdaynight. The mix of freezing rain and rain will

change to allrain just prior to daybreak on Friday.

* Temperatures: hovering near or just below freezing mostof

Thursday nightbefore rising above freezing near daybreak on Friday.

* Winds: southeast around 5 mph.

* Impacts: a light coating of ice especially on untreated

roads...bridges...overpasses..and sidewalks.

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