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  1. meanwhile here's a neat post on recovering & working with archival data from the Lady Franklin Bay expedition: http://icyseas.org/2016/02/11/ghosts-of-discovery-harbor-digging-for-data/
  2. YeahI like hearing about what people do, and why the sensible weather matters for their professions and their hobbies, and why us amateurs feel compelled to go beyond "see what's in the P&C for the next couple of days", and for us and for pro mets how that matches with scientific and other kinds of enthusiasm for weather & climate. I think the banter thread is great for that stuff cuz its entertaining -- but also b/c it helps me reckon the kind of topics ppl are likely to really have built a knowledge base about also the kind of wishcasting they do lmao Fire and alpine climbing were reasons I started paying attention.
  3. Two items: First a post talking with Lonnie Thompson about salvage coring & long-term storage of ice records: http://glacierhub.org/2015/05/13/melting-glaciers-changing-careers/ Second a nifty set of links that's been making the rounds about Jill Pelto's environmental art; http://www.jillpelto.com/gallery/ http://bangordailynews.com/2015/12/30/living/artistic-scientist-illustrates-effects-of-climate-change/ Snippet from the UMaine profile: http://mainejournal.umaine.edu/communication-of-science-through-art/This one depicts glacier mass loss in the Cascades; ... This one shows glacier mass loss, sea level rise, and temperature increase ... All neat stuff and there's more to see in her gallery and in the UMaine profile. Will have to browse and see what she has for weather nerds; the famous Edward Tufte supercell shows what might be a starting point for a scientist-artist who wants to move beyond elegance of explanation: I think she could do some wicked cool things with analyses drawn in the old school, and with soundings. I would love to see how she'd approach it. If the Pelto name is familiar, her father Mauri Pelto is a prolific glaciologist. ... What I think is worth noting is that the link between scientific illustration and fine art, so to speak, is so often thought of as a distinction when as has come up in this thread re: romantic landscape art, Bradford Washburn, &c. that distinction is a convenience and the link grounds a powerful tradition of exchange between artistic and scientific ways of seeing, observing, creating and presenting data, especially in the American west -- Muybridge, Thomas Moran and William Holmes e.g. Here's a couple of Holmes joints, for fun. All via wiki. Panorama from Point Sublime, illustration of the Grand Canyon by Holmes, published in Clarence E. Dutton, The Tertiary History of the Grand Cañon District (1882), sheet XV. ... Sunset on the Kanab Desert. From the brink of the Permian Cliff - a Permian butte in the foreground, the Vermillion Cliffs in the distance, and the Jurassic white sandstone in the extreme background. Grand Canyon District, Mohave County, Arizona. (Holmes, 1877)
  4. Today's weather was shockingly miserable. However some of you might enjoy this article on Newfie weather argot http://www.hakaimagazine.com/article-long/unique-language-newfoundland
  5. I think it has to be a little nerve wracking doing the forecasting during fire season or trying to nail down the timing of the Sta Anas. I would love to hear a SW met give their take, or talk abouthow the fire agencies perform and act on their weather analysis
  6. I think I mentioned in the banter thread a couple weeks ago with the storm train coming ashore SGX had in one day: torrential rain, flash flooding, mudslides, high surf, high wind, tornadoes, and a blizzard in the mountains.And there was an earthquake. I always thought given the huge population, varied terrain from coast to alpine to desert, transport chokepoints through high passes, and critical interested groups using the forecasts that forecasting for LOX or SGX must get real exciting sometimes
  7. So far today in the San Diego CWA we've racked up: waterspouts, tornadoes, bow front, damaging winds, torrential rain, flooding, landslides, high surf, blizzard conditions and 2+ feet of snow in the mountains and, also, a temblor
  8. Burst of -SN followed by rainy snizzle to start things off as a Lakeview preview
  9. Spending xmas eve reading about the Armistice Day blizzard with a bucket of vino and the fake fire
  10. Pissy, miserable drizzle interspersed with gusts of lashing wind-driven rain. Wish we could pack it up and go home
  11. Absolutely beautiful day, sunny and clear. Kissed 50F at work. O__ounusually nihilistic post from Jonger
  12. Really interesting read; thanks for the write-ups & thanks for the bump!
  13. For Chicago: With a recent total of ~11.2" at ORD per skillingblog
  14. A hideous pissy, freezing drizzle mixed with intermittent flakes near Sox; patches of snow clinging to life on the grass and on cars.
  15. I thought we were a lock for a washout but we might get away with working the whole day o_o
  16. Friend of mine works on local & indigenous knowledges and she notes this kind of stuff is really contentious and difficult for numerous of reasons. Put shortly, one of the issues at stake is there's always the risk that the persons -- usually outsiders -- doing conventional science are going to home straight in on a reductive judgment about whether the local knowledge has "scientific" value in this case that is to say I suppose, predictive value or skill. If it does, then someone's probably going to go make money or a career, or formulate policy off of it, and not necessarily share the credit or benefit. So ferinstance, Brazil has a bioresearch framework that requires companies and institutes doing studies on forest products for e.g. drug development -- kind of an outgrowth of ethnobotany -- share the benefit through various avenues. And they're always dragging Pfizer or whoever into court to make em pay. A very prominent historical episode of this kind of thing would be quinine. If it doesn't "work" then, well, it can get written off as a hilarious native or yokel farmer's almanac type primitive superstition; ha ha ha "spider webbs" etc. In practice seasonal & climatic decision making processes involving nature signs like phenology turn out to be complex and involve a whole bunch of factors, including social, religious, and economic ones -- this is widely true, and not just for so-called traditional societies. It also lends itself to derision from self-proclaimed disinterested observers who have prescriptive policies in hand. Think about what would go into being a consultant trying to convince a municipality to restrict new builds in a avalanche or landslide zone, or trying to get people to relocate out of floodplains and wildfire risk areas, and how easy it is to declare people to be irrational and stupid for not wanting to move right out of their burntrap mountain communities in Inferno Gulch, CA.
  17. Imagine this same discussison playing out 60 years ago in a senator's office: From 5.6 “OLD INDIAN WAYS” OF KNOWING THE WEATHER: WEATHER PREDICTIONS FOR THE WINTERS OF 1950-51 AND 1951-52 Randy A. Peppler * University of Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma https://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/143684.pdf
  18. Whipping wind and pissy drizzle. A few minutes of mocking sun. Utterly uncomfortable pair of days. Was surprised at how cold it felt.
  19. Great to meet everyone and I look forward to round two in the future! & thanks to everyone for organizing :]