Definitely saw it coming. I prefer southern stream dominant patterns, it's sad to see the inevitable coming. When I realized the synoptic differences between the Euro and the rest of the crowd were at 60hrs after we trended to an "easier" way to win, I immediately started worrying. But here we are...
More than that, we need it to synoptically just look more like the other 12z suite models. Interested to see if the UK holds the big storm idea.
Also gonna be watching TPV positioning and orientation like a hawk.
Absolutely, we've seen the TPV modeled differently in location and orientation on almost every run of every model this week. Subtle differences having big impacts.
Yep, its FOLKS worthy, if only the CMC looked like the GFS and GFS showed the Canadian solution...I'd be a lot happier, but good to see it stay with a solid evolution. No kicker up in the PNW like Euro.
This was one of the positives of the GFS to note, the evolution is definitely different in the two, and I wouldn't classify this as a "cave" to the Euro. It's a difference in tilt and amplification that's gonna change from run to run. The problem is we get our 3-4" from the trailing energy amplifying and splitting which is a tough evolution to bank on.
Agreed, the orientation of the trough and energies for phasing doesn't have the same alignment for clean phasing and giving a nice runway to climb the coast. If I didn't look at surface panels, I'd assume a worse outcome.
One thing to make note of regarding early frames and the evolution is what @psuhoffman was mentioning as to where the GFS camp and Euro camps diverge. The split happens about 60-72 hours into the evolution and how wave intensities are handled. That's absolutely something to watch on the 12z GFS and even on the secondary models (UK, CMC). The euro isn't the euro of old, but messing up evolution of energies 60hrs out would be unusual.
If that kicker is modeled more accurately by the Euro, it certainly flattens the flow and dampens out our wave, not really having any chance at the phase the GFS is now onboard showing.