On a completely different note, Pivotal will be changing its website layout soon. They let paying customers check it out and comment. We'll, I think it sux and I told them I hate it and will be canceling. They said they've had mostly positive comments. I don't buy it. My retirement money website changes their site every few years and I swear it's always worse. These places need to get the website designers out and just keep a few to maintain the site. I had the same website from 2009-2022 and I got similar numbers with hits and calls the entire 13 years. Anyway, if you like the looks of Pivotal, don't get used to it.