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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Baseline on power outages at 6P. Let's see where this goes. Numerous 40-45kt gusts NJ coast now. Sea Girt in Monmouth county is the rough break point between 40F NJ coast and 32 just north. Wow!- 1,011 replies
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Just to answer a question that originated 2 hrs ago: Sounding can be 0 or below but if the saturated layer doesn't have any -8C above 2 or 3000 feet, ,hard to get snow in that sounding. In other words, we need ice nuclei or salt nuclei. Usually -8C is the theoretical warmest limit to produce snow via ice nuclei. Here's some depressing guidance for NYC... I hope the probabilistic is too low for 6,12,18. Also add probabilistic chance for .01 freezing rain. The 12z/ 16 HPC HREF you will like but my guess it's 3" too high in NJ/LI...just my guess. That last HPC HREF graphic is for 7P tonight to 7P tomorrow...has no snow prior to 7P. This is it for me for a bunch of hours.
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Wantage Nj 0.d6" small flake possibly ly 3/4 mi snow... 18.9F might be my last ob for quite a while.- 1,011 replies
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Hope it works out. I've lost a little situational awareness on the models. I'll leave it to everyone else to keep me informed.
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Wantage NJ 0.3" 19.F at 450P. 1 mi s-. Added the snow reports to the NWS. 3-5 PHL ILG area. 2" in our NJ forum.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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good use of web cams, I don't use them nearly enough. thanks for the reminder.- 1,011 replies
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HRRR and HRDPS look best at 21z with the CC. This run of the NAM not so hot.
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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DIX Correlation Coefficient (CC) and of 418PM with mping obs.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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snow reports around PHL as of about 345P.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Widespread mdt-heavy snow in PA now edging into PHL and central NJ. Here's a look at about 4PM.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Wantage NJ 4sw: 0.1" new snow since it began 246P. Breezy at times. 19.9/15.8 small flake dense packed snow.- 1,011 replies
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Maybe around 5 or 6P, we'll repost the snow amount forecast (takes a while to get it all collaborated for a post).
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Philly 1-2" now per PHI FB page comments.- 1,011 replies
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not happening... not meant to be (at least I don't think so). Wind compaction, sleet, drifting...will be a difficult measure.
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On the HRRR accumulation graphic through 5AM, use the lower end of those value ranges. That's the safest, I should be a rough unsafe travel evening .
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Can everyone live with this??? I think it's realistic, with another 1-4" coming I80 LI after 5AM and 3-6" coming after 5A n of I80 in far nw NJ/ne PA and se NYS CT. We'll see if this comes down a bit in future cycles?
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I see Howell NJ had 0.2" accumulation at 1230P. Must be some other acscums in NJ now.
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I can see ~1"/hr I-95 sewd but not much more than that due to temp profiles near freezing. Bigger fluffier dendrites I think will be in the colder airmass, unless they get huge in NYC due to aggregation and a slug of bigger qpf heading in there. I definitely expect 2" hr for a few hours this eve e PA/nw NJ and of course advancing northward during the night,
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Snow measuring: CoCORAHS guidance is deepest in 24 hours from time it began for storm total (greater 24hrs, clean the board and add whatever hours beyond). However, not all offices do that. I know in Mt Holly, to limit snowmelt and or drifting problems, clean the board every 6 hours. That's what I'll be doing at 845PM tonight. Mat from NJ Climate Center may be commenting-adding on.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
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Wantage NJ 740' MSL. flurries began 246P. 22/11. Been evaporating aloft past hour, just enough to raise the dew point 1F. Thats the lead dry air suppression.,- 1,011 replies
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Am monitoring a bit now. No further comment on modeling til NWS adjusts whatever they believe they need to. I think what you're all doing, tracking 3K NAM vs HRRR is probably the most important on short range performance.
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Have seen 12z/16 EC..enough to keep me thinking ice and packed snow LI/NYC sometime later tonight but it goes back to all snow by 5 or 6AM i think and snows another inch or possibly 2 in the city 7A-9A. I could see snow amounts capping 8-12" inland I-78 I to I195 due to sleet. Also think 1 hr flash freeze (8F temp drop self defined for parts of NYC Monmouth County when the wind shifts to n around 5or 6A 33-25). IF that happens, bad news for bridges and rails. Again, FOLLOW NWS. This is just something the models have been trying to hint at for a number of cycles. One other thing: EC does not have thunder. But per multiple models I see qpf suppression in an area w of I95 and near I78. These things happen in big storms and NOT predictable yet where they will occur. Nothin here yet. 119P and off line til 2PM ish
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Hope you're right. Dry slot implied your depiction above which also tells me trouble. . NMM3K too amped? Don't know. NWS I think likes the 3K a lot. I don't have a feel but once the 0 layer more than 25 MB thick (~800 ft above freezing) gets modeled to within 20 miles of you and you don't have strong VV, and/or -8C ice nuclei either available or descending into the dry slot , it's trouble. Models are very good, but imperfect on placement. I'll favor the NAM 3k/HRRR but defer and hope you';re right about colder and I'm wrong. Right now, the zone of uncertainty needs to be briefed as such - clarity about range of impacts.
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