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Right down the lines politically, right as things are spiking up too. Not to be political but they have no shame of stripping powers from her knowing what the state congress wants to do, which is turn this state into Florida in terms of openness. It is asinine and dangerous, it also flies in the face of the opinion of those in this state as 57% of the people in this state approve of the job Whitmer has done. Who are these people representing, it certainly isn't the people of this state.

At what point is it gross negligence I'd hate to say they deserve it but in light of all the people who are sick and they still come back with this, it is hard not to think they deserve it when they are this ignorant.

Yeah you are thinking the reverse of me of how he got it, but can you imagine how much it has spread?

Knowing that Hicks was sick for over a day and all of them still went on like nothing was happening. This is how you create a superspreader event.

"It is what it is"

The difference being those are viruses we have known treatments and in some cases vaccines for. That matters wholly to this discussion.

https://news.yahoo.com/covid-19-cases-rising-among-184012739.html COVID-19 cases rising among US children as schools reopen After preying heavily on the elderly in the spring, the coronavirus is increasingly infecting American children and teens in a trend authorities say appears fueled by school reopenings and the resumption of sports, playdates and other activities. Children of all ages now make up 10% of all U.S cases, up from 2% in April, the American Academy of Pediatrics reported Tuesday. And the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday that the incidence of COVID-19 in school-age children began rising in early September as many youngsters returned to their classrooms.

So sorry to hear that, hopefully she pulls through. I was quite surprised how busy the UP was overall when I was up there. Great news for up there.

Cool lets do number of infected now. No one wants to get this and you are talking deaths, how many had to be hospitalized or how many have had some permanent damage? It is really really simple just to look at deaths and say no big deal, which 200k deaths is a big deal btw, than it is to look at number of cases and number of hospitalizations which are much much higher. Judging by your sourcing though above, I can guess that you think this is a nothing virus, no big deal.

There is no reason why they should be open now if they weren't in July. It is just political posturing at this point.

If we are around 750 a day from here on it will be 75k added, that being said we are going into cold/flu season so maybe the modeling is factoring in a spike. It isn't completely out of the realm especially if schools remain open and in person.

This is that cross point like early in the summer where numbers went down so people wanted everything opened and then numbers skyrocketed back up when some things opened up. Caution still needs to be used, while slowly opening the remaining things up.

Almost as if we saw this coming but still stood on the traintracks

I am very pleasantly surprised about the mask usage in the UP. I would put it at 99% indoors and about 75% outdoors. And those who aren't wearing outside are definitely social distancing. Also nearly everything here is open except those places that have closed for the season.

Yep which is just proving that we can't become complacent especially going into winter.

Hyperbole much? How about this, you worry about the lack of action in SC and let us who live up here worry about Michigan and what is happening here.

No, it is proving deadly to about 1000 people a day and with no known vaccine that number will continue because people are choosing their liberties over safety.

Which is fine, it is not perfect but a place where there is a lot of heavy breathing and close contact you kind of want that mask on.

This clarifies the misnomers above https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan/2020/09/10/whitmer-clarifies-order-masks-not-required-for-all-sports-in-michigan/

It is not all sports that are mandated only the ones with close contact. To be honest those sports shouldn't even be played at a state level right now. There is way too much risk for kids to pass on the virus that can't be controlled or checked like at a professional level. And there are very few things restricted right now. Gyms opened up this week but people have to wear a mask, anyone complaining at this point is only complaining because they have to wear a mask for certain things. Mind you there are plenty of outdoor activities where you don't need to wear a mask at all.

It was dumb but expected. However of all the things to worry about I think the actual pandemic is more important than Pelosi getting a haircut.

It isn't wrapping up, numbers are going down in the state but schools just opened up and some will be in person. So it is very early to spike the ball.

There is a correlation with those places where mask wearing is more prevalent having better numbers, but it also a function of how much is open and yes there could be weakening of the virus itself, but that last factor is a bit more unknown.

FL/TX being higher is a function of population. Per capita its the midwest and northeast which OSU pointed out.

Baum's graphic says cali and the northeast and midwest lead in testing.