OSUmetstud
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All the vaccine data is open to the public, independent scientists, and governments. We are not reliant on the pharmaceutical industry only to say its safe.
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Williams County OH and LA County have nearly the same population fatality rate...slightly over .2%. They probably have different values but over time the basic viral dynamics are the same.
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I think the argument works better the other way. Like if I'm in Australia or New Zealand or Africa or the Middle East I wouldn't necessarily want a bunch of unvaccinated travelers coming in to cause an outbreak in a mostly naive population with lesser vaccine availability.
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I still don't get the point overall. The people who don't get the vaccine are mostly punishing themselves by taking the risk with the virus. I think this group will be relatively small. 20 to 30 percent at most? Once those who get vaccinated that want to we will almost surely be well beyond the herd immunity threshold between infections and vaccine.
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Vaccine passports as originally slated were/are definitely about international travel. I mean they're called passports for a reason lol. There will be inequitable vaccine distribution across the world for a few years.
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I think the domestic arguments are stronger. But there's really no reason to screw countries internationally where there isn't enough vaccine for everyone.
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Worldwide they aren't. And there is already significant signs that the vaccine rollout hasn't been particularly equitable in the US. Much easier for someone with consistent computer access to get an appointment, for example.
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Seasonal flu seems about the same as covid for kids. 246 deaths so far under 17. But agreed. Also, can't require a vaccine for kids that's not approved yet for that population lol. I'm using the school requirements to show that there is precedence for a requirement when there is a compelling public health interest.
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What about all the people in the rest of the world, especially in poor countries who don't yet have vaccine access (and may not for some time)? Are they just not allowed to travel?
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You often need certain vaccines to attend public schools (childhood vaccines in elementary school and meningitis for college). Theres also legal precedence for the government mandate of vaccines in the US (see Jacobson v. Massachusetts (1905)).
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Not bitching but I think there are some legit "liberal" type arguments against them because of equity issues.
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I dont believe the data is fabricated. I believe that anyone who creates a website like that without context is doing so without good intentions.
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Yeah I guess I mean its going to be used for those purposes. The data itself is the data. I would he highly suspicious of the motivations of the people created that site.
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Talk to your doctor. This whole site is amateur hour.
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The problem here is that you actually believe that you are properly equipped and informed to decide on your relative risk of getting covid complications vs. your relative risk of getting vaccine complications. You are not. Reading that website without proper analysis or context will cause you to overweigh vaccine risk...which is what you've been doing since the jump.
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It's intended to drive fear. It's obvious. There is absolutely no context behind the numbers reported on that site. I should create a site with all the reports of people who get sick or die after taking Tylenol. It would scare the shit out of you.
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https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9957832237
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That's an anti vax site.
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No...I think I'll have to wait until may/June. We dont have the supply here.
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Europe has more vaccine hesitancy in general for all vaccines. It was apparent before covid.
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Ehh...accidental deaths are up 19k (mostly overdose). That's pretty significant. Restrictions and lockdowns are a necessary evil at times but they aren't without negative downstream effects.
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Driven by overdose. It mentions it in the paper.
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234?guestAccessKey=0b94e087-4b87-458d-b869-a1aa164eb8a6&utm_source=silverchair&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_alert-jama&utm_content=olf&utm_term=033121
