powderfreak

My area in VT got destroyed that following December 2003, where some of the NOWData sites show 60-90" monthly totals. December 2003 was probably the closest thing to what E.Mass experienced this past winter, except there were several thaws mixed in, whereas last winter's blitz had no thaws. 12/2003 monthly totals were around 5 feet I think at BTV but some of the mountain Co-Ops got crushed. Jay Peak Co-Op...154" (1,800ft) Eden Co-Op...86" (about 30 minutes north of Stowe) Hanksville Co-Op... 78" (25 minutes southeast of BTV) South Lincoln Co-Op...71" (45 minutes southeast of BTV) Worecester Co-Op...70" (next town east of Stowe)

I was just SW of the Albany area then...my last winter living there and it included 50" in 10 days. This map likely isn't accurate outside the ALB area, as that's where this TV station focuses on. I remember we were all watching the news and they were doing live coverage as the state shut down the NY Thruway, counties were under states of emergencies, that deform band meant business. Our town had 25" per the PNS. In the core of the deform band west of us there were some pockets of 36-40" recorded. Christmas Day Storm, 2002.

This will always be a favorite of mine just because it snowed 24" during Christmas Day. It was timed perfectly that it started early in the morning, and during Xmas morning activities it was just steady 1"/hr, though still not overly impressive until 3pm when it seemed to go crazy with 3-5" per hour rates. I just remember eating Christmas dinner and then finding like another half foot fell during that time. The whole family outside shoveling later at night as it continued to pour snow, on Christmas Day. Drove the grandparents home across town and couldn't stop at red lights as we'd never get rolling again. Blasting through snow banks that threw snow up the windshield and over the SUV as the road crews could only clear main roads, side streets had 12-18" since last plowing. I'll always love knowing I got to experience a two-footer on Christmas Day. Not the day before or after...but right there on Dec 25th.

Great shot! Keep that one save on an external hard drive to show the boy when he's older. In fact everyone should back up their photos from last winter, one crash on the computer and you can't get that back.

That radar sums up last winter, haha. Just pummeling eastern New England, especially Mass/BOS. Aimed right at BOS.

I've seen this posted a bunch on ALY and OKX social media pages

Check out ALY's FB page...they are getting crushed for that forecast. 10-18" forecast for most of their area and not a single flake yet.

Man OKX is getting slaughtered on social media. ALY is having just as big a busy but luckily not many care about that area haha.

Yeah, the EURO has gotten better looking in NNE in the recent runs, lol. Definitely N/E of where it was.

Oh I think you are right...wasn't a comment about your PBP but more that this seems to be a theme a lot. Models will show a west solution then within the final 12-24 hrs it keeps burping east. There must be something in the model algorithms that cause them to wrap these systems up too early, when in reality they take a little longer to really go to town.The further north it gets helps me. If it could go NNE instead of NE, it's definitely helps up here.

Haha I reread a thread from Jan 2011 where that poster wxwatcher from SNH lost it on Messenger for all the east trend posts...because basically anyone west of ORH was becoming afraid of only seeing flurries with every RUC run that "ticked east." Then they got buried out in GC with a deform band later in the thread, so who knows.In this case though I think the east trend has to be watched. There's too many meso models way east, though it would suck to see the King fall on it's face to the GFS or something lol.

Many a classic snowstorms for SNE involve the Messenger east trend posts. No idea why it happens, but it happens often enough. Always a tick east, tick east, tick east. Wouldn't be a snowstorm without your analysis.

Not deep down...right on the surface of my mind I hope the Euro's right . But its sort of relaxing to watch a storm with absolutely nothing at risk. Just call it and comment as I see fit with no agenda. Of course I'd rather be looking at a bullseye, but it is refreshing not to have anything at stake and just watch without freaking out over little things.

NYC is getting pretty lucky with that narrow band of snow. That may save them if some of the eastern solutions are correct. It looks like just north and south of the city hasn't gotten much of anything though.

I love the east vs. west....north vs south...NE vs. SW...etc battles that go on in here during these storms while jockeying for jackpots and hardest impacts.

Yes, they moaned their way into a *FORECAST* for 24-36".

This is one the most fascinating nowcast I can remember. The stakes are huge. There's the EURO/NAM, and RGEM/GFS/HRRR/RAP.

Haha, yeah like the RAP at 18 hours out. I would've expected a much better H7 presentation than wrapping dry air in and split omega. That should be a wall of high RH and omega jamming from NYC through New England up into Maine.

Yeah its puzzling...the RAP doesn't even get the deform band to ORH through 18 hours.

Wow... 10mm is like .4" and 20mm is .8" ect... but that's really quite low from Tolland-ORH and west. Like 0.8" QPF for Tolland and west.

That's a new one. Big storms always bring out some interesting models haha.

It was only out to that at the time, haha. don't worry, we know you guys are getting big snow.

Haha you seem worried when you are trying to pass off negativity/disappointment on others.

18z NAM QPF... two large metro areas just destroyed. A Tolland County nightmare. The NYC battle is amazing... EURO and NAM going big, a lot of other models going quite low.