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I'll have to find it but I remember seeing a TV forecast for Vermont out of a BTV news station that just had "2-4 feet" written covering the entire state.

That whole winter was a wet dream or white dream for the interior. Even in ALB it was one of my first few winters really watching the models and I distinctly remember that 12/31 event become a much bigger event as it came closer (we had like 12-14" I think) and then remember the models jacking up the Feb 01 event as we got closer with further NW tracks. Then all events in March seemed to trend snowier, too, at least in the local high country. I do sort of miss the days of crazy model swings...oh wait...

That was a great storm. Around 15" at BTV got the depth up around two feet in mid-December...which is pretty solid for that location. Amazing coastal front there though...you've got 14s next to 30s haha.

Full on haha... love looking at the past photos every once in a while.

Not SNE but time for a weenie revisit to the beginning of last winter...which had several sweet snow events prior to Thanksgiving. Last winter the early season was pretty awesome. October 23rd started it off with 7-11" (elevation dependent) at the mountain... It snowed off and on for that final week of October... adding another couple inches here and there. October 28, 2018 After that there were a few mild weeks in November but winter returned/arrived on November 21st...a solid upslope snowstorm moved in with NW flow bringing heavy snow squalls to the area. Up at the mountain on November 21st. The closest building is "the office." Down the road at 1,300ft. Even down in town, November 21st rocked and broke my almost 2 year drought for a warning criteria event with just over 7" falling in the end. All from some moisture and NW flow. This is how it should look down in the valley prior to every Thanksgiving, haha.

Ha, interesting you say that because I was like that in Burlington during college and then the two years after UVM that I lived there. After a while you realize how it works the more frustrating part is not being involved *at all*. I actually enjoy the difference between mountain and town. I mean, it is just as close as a lot of people are to their nearest major supermarket in any suburb. As a meteorology weenie, there really is so much small micro-scale stuff that is absolutely fascinating. I think what also helps is although the snow is significantly less than it is just up the road...you are still on the higher end of snowfall for a large portion of the population. BTV to me was much more frustrating because there you weren't getting anything. Forget 2sm -SN with dim moon all night long leading to 2" on the car in the morning and 4-6" at the mountain from some weak-sauce shortwave, at BTV you had 10sm bright moon....and I gotta say, growing up in the Hudson Valley where Logan11 crushed me in every event, you appreciate the number of flakes that fall from the sky. Like you said, I also spend so much time up there... at least 6 days per week during daylight hours during the winter...that it is essentially home as well. There's also something appealing about knowing the mountain is getting more snow. As a hardcore skier (130-150 days per season I have skis on my feet), the snow at the mountain is more important anyway. For a non-skier, I bet it would be a bit more of an issue to be so close to big snows, haha. I can enjoy watching it fall and shoveling it, but I can't enjoy it in my yard like I can on the mountain. There are a couple rare times when home gets more snow due to some weird flow/inversion level and I find myself more annoyed by that. I can't ski that, haha.

Sort of reminds me of a stretch this past winter that brought snow to the mountain on 21 of 23 days...with 80" at 1,500ft and 108" at 3,000ft during those three weeks. At the end of it we just needed a break, haha. My wife hated me...every 5 minutes looking outside because even if it was just 3sm -SN at home it would be 1-2"/hr up at the office. Highly localized period of crush. I still can't believe I had 375" at the 3,000ft board when the winter before I only had 153".

That's the way to run a snowstorm...love when you spend a while tracking a big one but once you get that post storm depression, you realize there's one right behind it.

Wasn't there a decent 6-12" event like 4 days after the early March 2001 biggie? I have a lot of AFDs from BTV that month and it's insane how everything trended snowier leading up to events...starting with 3/5/2001 which was going smoke cirrus in a lot of VT even 48-72 hours prior. In reality all of VT got like 20-40". Then there were two more big bombs that had over 24" each for the mountains I think on 3/22 and 3/30. Both of those looked like rain or something other than snow based on reading the AFDs a few days out.

Similar ratio here, lol. 2.8" frozen on 1.40" liquid. I think we had mostly freezing rain in that that then switched over to a mix of very wet snow and sleet. I lost some branches around the yard from the ice.

This is awesome! Been a while since I've seen a sight like that at home with wet snow that isn't like 3-5" but 8"+. It's not a true blue bomb until the windward side of the trees have 6" of paste going up and down the trunks. I get to see that on the mountain all the time (not that hard when you have the ability to search up to 4,000ft in elevation to find the rain/snow line) but haven't had one in the valley at home in a while. I love going just like 300-500ft higher in elevation from the actual rain/snow line and its just pure paste on everything. By the time you are 1,000ft above the rain/snow line its back over to pretty much powder. Would love to see a good blue bomb at home one of these seasons. Like a solid 8-12" of pure cake.

Ahhh the March storm named Stella...that's remembered around here by skiers like Nemo in 2013 in SNE. I recorded 37" at 1,500ft and 52" at 3,000ft in 48 hours. BTV was over 30" too. We actually got a bit shafted in town with 20" as the best banding was in the Champlain Valley down to BGM. Huge gradient in the few miles from here to the base of the mountain. That storm even went a bit too far NW for areas east of the crest lol....though 20" in my yard was still the biggest storm here since March 2011 brought 27".

May be a forum first. Snow map from the NAM in August.

Then in January we get these regimes that resemble September/October, lol.

Here comes fall. BTV already forecasting highs in the 50s under partly sunny skies for Friday. Crisp airmass if we can stay below 60F with sunshine this time of year. Thursday Night....Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Friday...Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s.

12z GFS with an early season frost threat at Day 5. The GGEM at 120 hours as well looks pretty chilly to start September. Even sub 540dm thicknesses tickling NNE.

It's true haha, we definitely mostly forecast with our emotions and not actual data & facts. JSpin especially, that dude is all emotion when it comes to weather, very little hard data ever posted. Its almost like we have him confused with someone else on here that's known to blame others for weather he doesn't want?

You can just picture the posts this winter.... every cutter will be because of those who enjoyed a trough in the summer. Sort of like those posts where everyone knows a cutter is coming except one poster who refuses to believe it. Then the day it rains you get littered with "well all of you forecasting a cutter got your wish, a rainstorm in January" posts.

Ahhh if only we could control the weather... naturally if this winter isn't that good it will all be because of those who enjoy temps in the upper 70s in the summer ;). 45F this morning for the low at MVL and I had 47F on the car driving into work. Actually turned the heat on in the car too. First time for that in a long time.

Would be a nice pattern in the winter. Ridge out west, trough in the Lakes and Northeast.

I agree it's not chilly...it's still shorts and t-shirts. But at least where I am it has been solidly below normal compared to the mean of the previous 30 summers. We'll have to see how the day 5 Euro does...it's been steadfast with a huge trough moving through for 4-5 days.

It's more those that call it like they see it? Total honesty, how many times this summer have you really thought it was going to get sustained heat in New England? Not your wishcasting finding a tweet or two musing about maybe some warmth in 2 weeks. The fact of the matter is this is what this summer is. Who would constantly forecast heat this summer given the available model guidance?

Haha yeah it's like how many cool shots this summer have verified much warmer than expected? Why change now?

lol you wouldn't come close to 77-80F in that.

You've been in the 70s most of the last month there in Tolland, that's true. Why change now. That is one good trough on the Euro...4-5+ days of H85 temps under 10C for everyone. Highs might get to 70F in the torch spots verbatim, but hill towns would be mid-60s at best. I agree it's likely overdone with the duration of the trough, but who knows.