powderfreak

Every time I see these couple houses up on Spruce at 2,200ft, I think of @cpickett79. What a weenie spot to live...3,600ft hill behind you and an obscene amount of precipitation. Likely one of the most prolific annual QPF spots in the state of Vermont sitting high in the Notch/Mansfield/Spruce area. You never have to worry about it getting dry, as even a really dry pattern here is more water than most spots. If I win the lottery, I'm buying that place and putting an ASOS station up there to see just how low the visibilities are all winter. Probably could put up a +SN ob 5-6 of 7 days a week during the winter. Makes the parking lots at 1,500ft seem like the valley.

See I almost think if it happens again, it could happen in similar fashion. Almost like a standing wave pattern of big bombs that form in the same spot over and over. I feel like we do see those repeated patterns over 4-6 week cycles...say March 2001 was just a series of bombs that favored more interior and NNE, with COOPs in VT seeing up to 80" in that month in 3-4 storms. What 2015 did was one of these repeating patterns but on crystal meth. Plenty of situations I can think of where the same area got smoked with a huge storm in short succession...ALB in 12/25/2002 and then 1/4/2003... BTV had it in December 2003 with 3 crush jobs in a row for 50".... and then say mid-Atlantic in 2009-2010 with just massive bombs in succession. What makes 2015 remarkable though is it took the "stable bomb pattern" and took it to the next level. Plenty of examples I'm pulling up of 2-3 storms in a row over the same areas, but to get 4 to 5 systems over the same area in a month is something I can't think of. 2015 gives us a look at what happens if some of those patterns that produced 2-3 big storms in a row...kept going and dropped another 1-2 biggies on top of it.

Surprised at how cold it was last night, 37F for a low this morning.

Yeah if he had 120+ he probably did beat my backyard, I don’t have the number but it’s in that 110-120” range. Even JSpin had under 150” IIRC. We were pretty much spot on normal snowfall that winter I think or even a couple inches below.... say normal here is ~120 and JSpin ~150. Which goes back to your earlier point...getting normal snow when others get record snow certainly plays into our heads of the overall vibe of a given winter. And also it is crazy how close Scooter probably was to 150” if a couple of those late bloomers clipped him with a foot or something. What an insane winter. And it really took until Jan 20th to get started too.

115” or so here I think off the top of my head? Depth of like 18-24” for like two months straight that would just subliminate in the arctic cold every time it snowed on top, lol.

It livens up the discussion. Like today has probably had more posts than the previous week, mostly because he’s joined the convo again. I bet he’s a great guy to get a beer with.

That sounds like hell on earth.

1,000ft in SNE isn’t going to be higher than 80F for a high, IMO. ORH could barely get to 80F in August when BDL was pulling 87-88F. I bet it’s a bunch of upper 70s type days for highs in the hills, but we’ll see.

Looking at the normals, a frost here (not uncommon this time of year) is a larger negative departure than the forecasted highs next weekend are above normal.

Normal even way up here is 70/46 today at MVL. Knock a degree or two off for next weekend and the forecast highs of 74-77F are +6 to +9.

And Will/ORH is right.... maybe it’s entitlement but no matter the actual inches of snowfall it’s the jackpot syndrome that starts to take effect in any poster if one area gets the max load in several storms. Like 2014-15 wasn’t a bad winter by any standards outside of E.NE...it was normal to above and felt much different for anyone aside from say SE quad of New England. I think HubbDave has said it felt like a meh 100” season because it was so close in so many events to so much more. Same up here. Getting 125” in Stowe Village when Boston gets 80” means some great storms whiffed south. You always think “what if” and are like that 125” could’ve been 160” with some NW ticks in track. But we all spoiled.

Yeah, it’s true. Like 2015-16 up here was an atrocious (literally I didn’t believe it could happen) 153” at 3,000ft. Then the very next winter that same plot gets 375” and all is ok with the world. I’m not sure how I’d be doing if we did like 3 straight winters of 75% of normal, or even less. And even 75% of normal is a very shitty season as we don’t have the percentage deviations of the smaller annual total areas.

You were lurking but definitely left the daily conversation. It’s good to have everyone participating, keeps it exciting.

Looks beautiful. This is a perfect time to flip to above normal for a while to keep utility costs down. We have been very close to having to turn the heat on for the last two weeks at times, and I hate paying for heat in September. This upcoming pattern looks to be very similar temps to the end of August, which was Chamber of Commerce beauty. I bet we are mostly 70s with lows 45-55F. Perfect for not having to turn the heat on and we only used AC once this summer, so not worried about that. I do feel for those in SNE who are now yearning for the temps we have had over the past few weeks, but will have to wait several more weeks for that type of weather.

Just like that, DIT returns and posts are flying left and right with a couple new pages in the past 2-3 hours. Welcome back man.

Yes, welcome to the sub-forum @Fozz....you’ve been around for a long time (even back to Wright-Weather maybe?), so a good free agent pick-up for team New England.

Is below normal snow in Rangley still more snow than above normal in SNE? Hard to say.

Chilly afternoon/evening... 59F at 6:45pm. Was out golfing but the mountains kept causing several bouts of -SHRA to form and roll over us, almost drizzle like at times. Sometimes orographic lift isn't all that good. But I kept thinking, it's getting closer to the time when that means hours and hours of wintry appeal.

67/47... beautiful COC. Heading out for 18 holes soon...can’t ask for a better fall day.

Weak if you need to reinstall for a day or two . Just like don’t turn on the heat for a couple days of chill in August.

62/58... getting humid out. Radiators aren’t mounting up tonight.

It's starting... probably two weeks out from the real good stuff but it doesn't look like summer anymore. Real windy today (Gondola actually closed due to high winds exceeding 50mph gusts), so some of this photo is the underside of the leaves blowing in the breeze.

52F and raw at 1,500ft. 54F and not much better in town. Its cold, jacket type weather. Funny because in March it’s t-shirt weather at 50-55F.

Ha, yeah. I’ve had dozens of mornings colder and even with all my windows open the inside temp hasn’t gotten to that level of MPM’s. If you are using heat in SNE before I’ve turned mine on, time to look at more energy efficient windows or something.

BTV with some good southerly channeling winds today... sustained 20-25 and gusting near 40mph for a while now at the airport. Bumpy arrival I’m sure. Low clouds, cold and rainy at the mountain. Ceiling is like 2,000ft with mist and drizzle.