powderfreak

That may be pushing it... but if it can snow on Memorial Day weekend for Dendrite then I'm sure it's possible. In my 15 years spending a lot of time on Mansfield I can only remember one time where it snowed way up high on the last day of September (the year is escaping me right now, but maybe 2011?) but in reality the "snowy" day of that was the morning of October 1st. I have seen freezing rain in September though at the top of the Gondola. Oddly enough it seems freezing rain/mist/drizzle and icing is easier to achieve in late September up high... mainly because those happen with marginal cold and the moist NW flow triggers orographic lift that resides well below the dendrite snow growth zone. I've seen a decent amount of supercooled water droplets in September because the orographic lift doesn't punch high enough in the atmosphere to form ice crystals. Then in October the slightly deeper cold seems to introduce ice crystals into that orographic lift zone.

Not yet, bout to crack open a Sip of Sunshine. It’s not the favorite by any means but a buddy left me a couple from last weekend’s festivities...and we don’t discriminate if there are soldiers in the fridge.

Was looking at the map upside down, good call.

Ahh I gotcha. I guess I never really looked at it that close on a map, you are decently East of them.

Not being an ass but I have a hard time conceptualizing how you’d do better on strong CAA? You are south of them and they are at least as high as you. Was it CAA from the SW, like wrapping around an upper low? I’d honestly think you guys are pretty similar in all set ups, regardless of the ribbing on here.

48.3F at KTOLLA?

Yeah I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get at least one squall worth a transient inch in October. There’s always a cold pool that brings like a 0.14” QPF to 1.0” snow/graupel mix to the hills on the NW flank of New England, even if it melts like an hour later when the sun comes back out and you lose the wet-bulb process with temps going back from 33F to 43F again.

Yeah that month was nuts. Thanksgiving 2018 was a better winter holiday than half the Christmas’ this decade. Down under 1,000ft up here it’s very rare to go full cover starting like the 10th of Nov and never relenting. I think even the end of October was real cold... I met up with Oceanstwx for a beer and it was whatever day those SNE tornados happened near BOS... but like that next day it was snowing steadily in October even down low. The SPC guys in town from Oklahoma for that severe conference we’re loving it.

I think you are pretty much a lock for that. I think every October I can remember at least has had a light accum at 1500ft base of the ski resort here. Sometimes in town but 1500ft seems annual...it might just be a coating that melts by 9am but it happens. It’s really hard to get strong CAA that time of year and not have some upslope response. From looking at the Randolph data, I think your climo is very similar to 1500ft at my office. My daytime obs are likely going to be very similar with you. At night once home it’ll be different, ha.

Yeah we got a bunch of dense high QPF snows, and it wasn’t just like 2,500ft and higher like some November’s. Like the Randolph data, there was a very significant snowpack down to 1,500ft... people were skiing the glades to the parking lots in November. I’ve never seen that before, like instant mid-winter. The snow year gets very, very long when that happens... I think even at 750ft my continuous snow cover started like Nov 10th or 12th time frame that year. When the grass disappears that early in the valleys and you don’t see it again until Spring... it’s a long winter.

Anecdotally that sounds correct here. September has seemed like a summer month with warmth every year, and November has been like a winter month with even sub-zero cold shots up here within the past few years. It seems like it goes from mild 80s in September to mid-winter cold with highs in the teens at some point in November. It’s been a very favorable snowmaking month lately. Add in 2018 was the snowiest November on record up here with the Mansfield stake hitting 40” of snow depth for the first time in Nov in its period of record back to 1954.

I was reading about some place in the Wasatch of Utah that apparently before this cold trough had their last precipitation fall in late June as snow... and that deep upper trough that just swung through the intermountain west brought the first precipitation since then and it also fell as snow. If I read it right, it sounded like they went from snow event to snow event with no rain between. That's wild if true. I'd sign up for that... snow into June and then just literally nothing but sunshine and high pressure until it starts snowing again in the fall.

Everyone out in the western United States is laughing at that notion, ha. People pay big, big money to live in a place like Southern California to get endless dry 10 day forecasts and none of those rain/low clouds/dreary days.

That I certainly agree with 100%.

For sure there’s sex trafficking going on and has been since the dawn of time...the Epstein documentaries show it. I don’t think anyone denies that, plenty has been written and investigated there. The leap is then that Trump is the savior meant to uncover it when he has been known associates with Epstein and all the rest of it.

Our bear left as we haven’t seen him or cleaned up after him in two weeks now, sure sign the seasons are changing.

Yeah it truly shows America is operating in two completely different solar systems. It’s not even close. And then the family members will say “These people believe what they hear about COVID!” I’m thinking... you just told me there are kids in tunnels getting raped and then their blood drained so it can be drank by the wealthy elite. That’s believable but COVID is a hoax?! Am I high right now?

Interesting. It’s batshit crazy. I have family members who think kids are getting raped so Democrat’s and Hollywood elites can drink their blood.

@alex's growing season is done after tonight...

It was happening a long time before COVID though... The conspiracy theory side of things is pretty much unchecked and running rampant right now. This stuff is mind blowing the more I read about it. How does this take hold in a place like America?! https://time.com/5887437/conspiracy-theories-2020-election/

It’s become cool to mock empathy. It’s all me, me, me. Definitely as divided as ever.

Yeah I love day after day without rain. Never have to get stuck inside when you want to be recreating outside. 57F with a breeze here...had to shut all windows and doors. Crazy change from the hot and humid morning.

To me they didn’t show it like that. I mean literally a few miles to your north got rain... 0.36” in Somers, 0.26” in Ellington, etc. I just looked at those global models again and they didn’t show a like 20 mile wide band of nothing.

Heres the front...autumn spreading south.

It’s crazy how wet that Pike region has been while a county south DIT can’t buy a drop. I mean look at that dry right up as it hits NE CT. SW of ORH has been very wet with a few events, it’s so close to DIT each time.