powderfreak

That's awesome, there has to be 4-5 feet on the ground at 2,000ft in the mtns right now. It's been a hot topic lately in the industry and public. There's a lot of snow everywhere. Jay does 100% get the most snow. It is irrefutable. Probably a legit 330-340”…. Which is why it can be puzzling. A Jay ski patroller or instructor was posting on FB about one of the 12" in past 24 hour reports this week... saying it was an honest 7", and his point was that it's a great snowfall and would've been more than the other ski areas (Stowe and Smuggs had 5" or 6"), but by putting 12" on there, it made it the talk of the town online again. I think his words were "why can't we just take the win at 7" instead of pushing it to a point where its all people talk about." He seemed to have that similar opinion of you I'm sure, being sick of how instead of talking about how awesome the snow is and how much there is... the dialog is being distracted by the snow report. BTV posted this on social less than an hour ago and the first comment was about Jay Peak. It is on everyone's mind, even reaching the general public. It's been a helluva winter so far in the mountains.

Internet is the best thing, social media the worst… ha.

It sometimes matters, blocked vs unblocked, but to me it matters more for the lower elevations around the mountains. Regardless of blocking, the actual Spine above 2,000ft is going to get snow regardless. Like a blocked flow that favors west side is still going to snow on the upper east slopes of like Stowe, Sugarbush and Jay. Likewise, a more unblocked flow is going to still snow at Bolton and Smuggs upper elevations. The blocking discussion and Froude can be used to highlight the jackpot areas, but above 2,000ft along the Spine is going to get at least some snow in all Froude numbers. NWS BTV Froude study was more for how it impacts the inhabited elevations around the mountains… so like blocked flow, we aren’t getting more than light snow in Stowe Village or RT 100 corridor while Underhill and Jeffersonville or towns along west side are pounding. Unblocked flow is going to put snow into the RT 100 corridor on east side while it’s going over the west slope communities. Through it all, the mountains and Spine are getting snow in most of those situations. Either way, Smuggs is a fine choice for CAA, W/NW flow squeezing out residual moisture after the rain. If the flow is blocked, the snowfall should get more into the lower elevations on that west side, while it dries up or at least is more gusty wind-blown snow below 1500-2000ft on the east side.

-12F

-6F here… -16F SLK… never going to compete with the 1,500ft bowl. Cold dry night, but still a couple foot snowpack around the valley bottom. Frigid right now.

Who or what organizations pay for the grooming and maintenance of the fleet? Those things aren’t cheap. Must be tough though when groomers are down.

I think the snowpack will absorb a lot of the rain Wed/Thur in this area… it hasn’t been rained into yet up north in/on the mountains. The pack will compress but shouldn’t release big water (not ripe). The surface conditions will be rugged for skiing, snowmobiling, etc… but the depth will be there.

What a season so far. 279” measured snowfall. Stowe has the lowest ”reported” snowfall total in the area. It might be fun to see what Jay’s 382” would look like here, with another 8+ feet of seasonal snowfall. Just over 100”+ snow depth. First photo from a friend, but the buried trees are a vibe.

12F at MVL in full sun.

Like a legit two months away up here… about 3+ months away at elevation.

12F with -SN now here at MVL. Last hourly observation was 13F here on the SFC map… 5F at SLK, ha. Tomorrow is going to be a cold one with these current breezy conditions.

Well, it hit 100” at Feb 16, 2019… and STAYED above it until April 19, 2019. Maxed out at 124”. So April 19, 2019 was the last time it was at or above 100”. I worded it a bit funny.

Ha no idea… if this goes at once it’ll be a problem. First 100” or higher depth since April 19, 2019.

Picked up 6.5” last 24 hours including 4” this afternoon (pictured) in 3 hours… NWS has confirmed depth of 102” at the summit stake, so crested the century mark for snow on ground.

This usually ends well.

Can only imagine what 100 more inches of snowfall looks like up at Jay. <duck and run>

I’ll go… 8 foot pack swallowing ground level.

How high does the VAST trails in that area get… Does it crest 2,000ft? Sterling Forest area where the trails are is around 1,500ft right? 3-4 feet sounds about right in that mid-slope elevation band. That’s a great little recreation zone in this area… mtn biking, snowmobiling, ski touring, hiking, etc depending on the season.

lol not sensy… just fact based, sorry if it came off as sensy. It’s never been 2nd yet.

Yeah we had that in both of those other seasons too. 2016-17 had a similar stretch over 6-8 weeks, including a 26-day stretch with 100” in it at 3,000ft. 2018-19 had a run early season Nov, Dec, into January I believe of just pow. Its nice to get back to what folks seem to call “an old fashioned” winter compared to past 5 seasons at least. Crazy to think the last several winters up here have had +8 type departure months. We knew once it flipped a bit it would feel ridiculously cold and snowy.

269”… we’ll see if it makes a run at 2016-17’s 375” at that plot, or can get towards the more recent bigger year of 2018-19 max depth over 120”. It’s not second place for late Feb. I’m dammed if I do, dammed if don’t lol… rubbing it in or downplaying it depending on your viewpoint. Just let the stats fall where they are… it’s a solidly above normal snow winter, but not the best in even the last 8 years. A good winter.

Ha I know, I try to just post observations and sometimes am a bit in awe. I try not to be obnoxious. But it’s what’s happening here.

The irony is it’s not like historic snowfall or anything, it’s just a solid above normal season following numerous shitty years up here. The issue is it’s also been shitty down in SNE for years and the gradient has been super sharp this season. A lot of multi-year perception in play… up here happy that it’s finally out of the rut, but down there it’s the mentality of still in the rut. Hopefully SNE breaks out next winter.

Nah, we advised 97-98” for depth. We’ll see how NWS/NOAA interprets it. Imagine, a ski resort wanting to preserve actual observations and not push for the highest possible totals lol. This near 4,000ft… At 3,000ft we are in the mid-70s for depth after 3” of dense snow today. At Stowe we are all about the data points. None of this guessing and estimating sh*t. 269” diligently measured at 3,000ft on the season.

Yeah that was wild. Like 45dbz snow. Flakes the size and mass of small pine cones, literally.