For the goods that’s exactly what I’m saying…..everyone knows and tells everyone else not to expect the goods until late December and while some try very hard to say late February into March is also winter nobody really believes that…..this is why I am baffled when the same folks argue it’s not…..but then somehow this season it’s fine to complain how bad it is…..I’ve complained in late December before and everyone was like “rookie”…..lol