Syrmax

I have 8.5" in December....the hard way.

NAM did well identifying the band of post frontal snow over CNY. Looks like a pasty inch of snow covering most everything as KBUF also described last evening in their AFD.

I was downtown today for work Christmas lunch, was 65 on my car thermometer. We're down to 52 now. Not bad but trend is down, like the stock market...party's over!

Hopefully! Hard to think that a White Xmas is possible after today's beautiful weather but looks like we should scrape out a few inches one way or another, thru Sunday.

Pretty much agree. Maybe it's a sign of getting older. Its plenty cold enough here during all but the 1 in 10 year anomalously mild winters that occur. Even then we scrape out 40-50" of snow...which is a normal value for most people in many areas.

Noone lives in Pulaski. How would we know?

I think so too, even though we are in what is becoming our traditional mid December till New Years mild period. The Lakes will provide! Won't be deep snowcover but most of us won't be totally green by Xmas day.

Really?

Agree. As unremarkable as the SR and LR looks, we've seen this before...something usually develops. We may not like the outcome always but it's not like we live in the high desert of Nevada.

SN- around SYR. Fluffy dendrites. Maybe a 1/2" of low density fluff so far. We may get to 130" avg at 1" per day at this rate....

Some work to do on those model runs...to avoid a Christmas Day gully washer. Fortunately, there's time.

Nice band off GB up in Ontario. About 1" here this eve. An inch a day keeps Spring away...

Same problem here. If I wasn't lazy or needed to snowblow driveway, I'd do a core sample. I had 5.3" snow and 0.71" liquid.

Looks like around 2" here, maybe 3" by eye balling it.

We'll see what the moisture coming down from the north does but I'm at maybe 1". Looks like low end of 3-6" might verify here.

I hear ya and agree. KBGM usually more stingy but...those warnings address counties with elevation...they dont split CWAs other than Oneida. So I think 4-6" here is probably good.

Its unreal how variable the possible outcomes are for most locations with this event, from model to model. Best to keep expectations in check unless you have some elevation going for you. Ugh.

Steady snow downtown Cuse the past hour. Not sticking to anything though. Pretty much wasted qpf.

Was all snow but very wet from my place down thru Bville into Cuse. With lighter intensity downtown it's hard to tell what's falling. Regardless, even if snow it won't accumulate downtown. Should probably factor that into qpf and clown map expectations for some locales

I had 1.36" rain in last 24 hrs.

I think elevation will be the key with this one, with marginal temps. It’s still November after all so can’t get despondent about it. 6 or 7” isn’t unreasonable IMBY which would put us close to 30” for the month, with a Nov avg of about 9”. Pretty Boss overall. Now let’s queue up that Joe Bastardi ditty about the “weather in November the winter remembers...”or something like that.

That seems to be happening a lot in recent years, as in the past decade plus. Pretty sure it’s just random probability distribution as nothing else makes sense, but it kind of $ucks timing wise. It’s like we get a pre-January thaw, or the January thaw happens in mid/late December. I could be off on this but that’s my perception anyway.

That's a nasty cold rain out there presently. When is Spring?

Welcome. You’ll see more than your fair share of “appreciable” winter weather up near the Drum.

Just got back from Chicago area...for my sons graduation from Navy Bootcamp (it’s still the living hell I remember it as being). Thankfully the storm timing wasn’t a week earlier. Would not have been helpful on graduation week. Not that it was warm there (30s) but I managed to miss the record cold here on Thanksgiving. I’ll gladly pass on that. Having been loosely in touch with weather for the past week or so...I noticed the WSW’s up north of here. I liked the previous unconsolidated Watch/Warning system better as in situations like this, when I’d see a Lake Effect Snow Watch up north, I knew it was something I could largely ignore here nearer to SYR. Just putting up generic WSWs takes a bit more sleuthing to figure out what’s going on (I figure it’s for projected LES on/near the Tug).