michsnowfreak

I never understand the competition aspect of things, especially when areas that get way less snow than I do cash in. Its in a weather weenies blood i guess, but why would I worry about what someone else is getting? Do I worry about their weather when Im getting snow? No.

Actually some sun today. Dusted up 0.1" of snow yesterday, 0.8" on the month and 6.3" on season but its all lake dust that sublimates like crazy. Ground is rock hard frozen. Absolutely thrilled at the prospect of some synoptic snow Friday.

Just trying to give you a heads up, again I know you arent from the area. but if you want to just ride the "nothing will change" card, thats cool too.

Some of the positives of the projected pattern change. A much colder Canada (and a warming southern US) will likely produce a more traditional La Nina pattern. Its easy to forget as its cold out, but Canada is actually unseasonably warm right now. This would likely give a much more active northern stream and possibly even a Nina gradient, which can be a real treat. Often a storm tracking too far to your N & W will happen, but the pattern is so active you chalk up the L and wait for the next one. I can assure you, one rogue snowstorm well to the south in an otherwise sea of zzzzs with frozen, bare ground dominating the north is NOT a traditional Nina.

Welcoming a pattern shift, a more active northern stream, and a more traditional Nina with OPEN ARMS. Im sure many other of my fellow northern posters are as well. In the last 40 days, Detroit has seen snowflakes fall on 25 of the 40 days, totaling 5.8". This is what a cold/dry pattern gives you in the southern Lakes outside the snowbelt.

i always root for anything to benefit us. I dont really care about the northeast unless it affects us directly. Most of the east coast has been in a far worse snow drought than us the last several years. The glory days when the lower Great Lakes and northeast were getting season after season of above to well average snowfall and it was always "f*ck boston" and stuff like that is now about a decade removed. Just. Give. Me. Accumulating. Snow.

Since November, Detroit had had 15 days with a T of snow on the ground and 8 days with 1", and no days with 2"+. If we can score 2"+ this weekend id be thrilled.

A slight car coating of freezing drizzle this morning, and now some snow dust from Lake Huron. This is how cold/dry patterns work in the Great Lakes outside the snowbelt. Since Nov 28th, a period of 40 days, Detroit has seen snowflakes fall on 25 of those 40 days...with 5.8" to show for it.

Any individual area may be cynical and skeptical until they see results, but its certainly not a stretch to see how the aforementioned changes in the pattern would give the northern stream a more active look.

Exactly. Other than quickly checking totals or pics, what interest would we have in the storm? To be honest, Ive seen posts from a few users I didnt even recognize (in the impacted areas). I dont see people from STL or Cincy taking an interest in Chicago-Detroit snowstorms, nor would I expect them to.

The signal is definitely there on all the ensembles and weeklies. The issue in the short term is the cold and zzzz pattern that's frustrating snow lovers and the fact that any impulses/systems that DO occur in the meantime will have very poor run to run consistency on timing, location, etc.

Congrats to you both on your health!!!!

See I have no problem with others liking what they like, and it's a no brainer that everyone likes different things. The reason we have this discussion is your hyperbole posts and stating incorrect facts. See what I bolded as an example. You haven't even spent much time in the area in recent winters per your own admission. There's no way Detroit saw 14" snow depth? Actually there were several days over a foot region wide in Feb 2021. Feb 16, 2021 snow depth Detroit- 14" Flint- 13" Ann Arbor- 13" Toledo- 17"

So nice to see the word active lol

Way too early. Just something to watch. I don't need a huge storm at this point. Just a few inches of synoptic snow. Don't forget these some northern stream likely too.

Fingers toes and balls crossed.

Active is all I ask for. I don't care about temps as long as it doesn't torch. The northern US is in zzzzz city right now. We are getting lots of flakes and gray skies but just a dusting here and there (and LES sublimates fast). Only the belts are getting more persistent snow bands. Most of the rest of the upper midwest is sunny and cold.

It's wild to see how lake effect snow sublimated with temps so cold. After 0.6" of fluff yesterday I currently only have specs of white on the ground. Cold and dry with some flakes looks to continue.

Definitely a long shot. We all know very well that maps don't produce snow, mother nature does.

True. You liking the 2nd half of Jan for a more active Lakes and Northeast? The law of averages, and CPC, would seem to think so.

I know you predicted a warm January, but some of these posts are REALLLY stretching it. Even if the cold is not as extreme as it first seemed, and even if it does ease, there's absolutely NOTHING showing a "warm" or "very warm" January.

Locked with little deviation? For those of us out of the game we dont watch as closely, but for individual details there has been plenty of the usual deviation.

Obviously weeklies aren't good for anything remotely resembling a forecast (short term models have a tough enough time with that) but I must say I'm loving the look of week 3 (Jan 20-27). The dead of winter + below average temps + above avg precip.

Elevation and banding was perfect for you and northern oakland NYE. Most of SE MI has a dusting on the ground. Our 0.6 today was our largest since Dec 23. It has settled some.

It's possible. And again. No one likes to hear it. But it is early. Could still get into a good stormy pattern. But right now lake effect and hopefully a weak clipper or two will be all we get the next few weeks.