michsnowfreak

2020-21 and 2021-22 were fine. Both had excellent stretches. And 2022-23 had 2 storms with thundersnow and an ice storm. IMO, only last winter truly sucked. The whole thing is getting tiresome. Sometimes liking what you like OR stating facts, doesnt matter, damned if you do and damned if you dont. Bottom line - here are the facts. The last 5 winters (2019-20 thru 2023-24) BOTH Detroit and Flint each saw 6 storms of 6"+ and both saw peak snow depths in those 5 years of 14". Avg snowfall the past 5 winters was 39.3" at Detroit and 48.3" at Flint. Great winters? No. As bad as some act like? NO.

0.6" of fluffy snow this morning, mostly lake effect. Nice fluffy flakes at times. Weve now pennied our way to 6.2" on the season with the largest fall so far 1.5".

Interesting read! Sounds good to me.

That's a mid-Atlantic thing wrt strong nino. It usually increases their chance of a big winter storm. Strong ninos are never good here. I braced for the worst and hoped for the best but last winter was the lowest expectations I ever have going into a winter. Other than last winter, it hasn't been bad here for snow-lovers. We are far enough removed from the record snow years of 2007-2015 than an average snow season shouldn't be considered "bad" imo.

That would be nice. Mid-late January often is a good time for snowstorms anyway. Until then, have to hope for some clippers and lake dust.

Dusting of snow this morning with some mood lake flakes.

Wyandotte are mine. Macomb are his. Lake Orion is another guy who keeps daily records. Monroe is probably the least reliable because they are taken from a guy who doesn't really measure religiously, we always make give us a number when it snows . But it's all besides the point. The bottom line is prior to last winter there has been no issue with us getting snowstorms but a pattern like the one coming up doesn't look promising for snow for many.

His posting style/agenda is clear. Some think he's our old pal from saukville.

Im not so much mad that south of us should get nice snow. The places that are progged to get the best snow have less chances than us anyway, but also have done much more poorly wrt their climo than we have in recent years. I'm more irritated that this is it in the short term. Regardless how far north it goes or how far east before it shreds, you're going to see a ton of northern areas frozen with bare ground. We likely will see some weak clippers pop up in the coming NW flow, but those can never be pegged with much lead time.

Definitely due for regression. But we still better get a damn 3+ snowfall. I never go by the "I've used my snowblower" line, because everyone's different with that. Some use it for an inch, others only for the biggest storms. We've had 7 storms of 6+ the last 5 years. But none last year.

I was talking about getting a good snowstorm. If you think Chicago's window for a big snowstorm ends in mid February, I have some stuff to sell you . Easily 3 more months of good snowstorm potential, but by late Feb the snowcover lovers hopes rapidly fade.

We've had plenty of decent snowstorms the last 5 years, even if the winter overall was mild. This season has been nothing but grinding out dusting to 1.5" snowfalls so far. Fortunately it's very early still. But I'm dying for a good plowable snowfall.

Yup. It's ridiculous that it has to even be said, but some have the mindset that you can only choose one or the other.

Actually yeah 2020-21 was better than 1976-77 and 1978-79.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Now. The late 70s winters were brutal, absolutely. But HERE they were nothing really special snow-wise, except for 1977-78, and even that was much worse all around us. 1977-78 was very frontloaded, as winter was really nothing but frigid zzzz after the blizzard (though we did maintain snowpack into March). 76-77 was a tundra in many places and we locally got screwed in 78-79 despite the widespread cold and nearby heavy snow. I honestly think that the constant "blizzard of 78" photos that circulate social media start to make people remember something based on a photo not an actual memory. The winter of 81-82 was just 4 years later and is never mentioned despite being more severe here. And of course decades more recently are winters like 2000-01, 2004-05, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2010-11, 2013-14, 2014-15, 2017-18 all of which easily could stick in a memory better than the late 70s here.

I'm not sure but it's quite possible. But you are absolutely correct how people said it was impossible then (2014). Ever since the 1990s all we've heard is that same song and dance. 2013-14 blew 1977-78 away for severity (cold + snow + snowdepth) here but you get a few down snow years and people start right in with the 1970s. Odd how clearly they can remember 50 years ago but not 10 or 15 years lol. As for 1976-77. The definition of cold and dry the further north you went. Saginaw saw a season total snow of 18".

Amen to the bolded!

December 1989 was impressively cold here although no gawdy temps (lowest -9). The sour thing about that is how 1989-90 turned very mild after new year for the rest of winter. 1993-94 was a much longer (albeit late starting) winter. For me nothing will rival the brutal cold and deep snow of 2013-14 & Feb 2015, but the cold snap of Jan 2019 was very impressive (but short).

I was more referring to the fact that we see mostly negativity wrt the longrange REGARDLESS of what it shows. I literally witnessed Detroits most severe stretch of winters in recorded history on these weatherboards and I can assure you the attitude was mostly poor until storms/systems were in nowcast range.

Feb 2015 closely rivaled Jan 1977 in terms of cold in the Lakes region. Having one of the coldest months on record is actually not something many want to repeat anyway.

I disagree completely. Every pattern we have ever had was "working against us" per many posts on here. And facts actually often get greatly distorted as well.

A long spell of deep winter is coming. How much snow remains to be seen. But some of the posts just magnify how there really is no longrange look that would not come with pessimism. If it was a parade of storms ejecting from the south, I can only imagine some of the posts showing a random op model run of 2m temps in a warm sector.

With the long spell of cold, it would be nice to have a nice snowcover in place.

28 hour storm total rainfall 1.67", trace of snow.

Oh ok. Then I agree lol