psuhoffman

These are just teasers. Our two hecs come in Mid Feb and early March.

You aren’t kidding. It’s a slight amplitide Away from capturing the developing coastal. It’s trapped from climbing past our latitude by the flow. If it can get captured by the energy at the tail of the trough….boom

It’s not 12z but it’s good enough to keep my interest.

This is gonna be close…

Hold on…

SW looks slightly more amplified and tpv oriented less suppressive than 18z. But not back to 12z. Somewhere in between.

What’s the bar for folks on this?

As recently as 2013, 2014, and 2015 they obliterated the DC area in snowfall. What’s happen since 2016 imo is almost all our snow has come from lucky hits by progressive boundary waves during short periods when we got an epo pna ridge. Those don’t favor Winchester. They downslope in those plus they are kinda random and usually if you’re on the cold side of the boundary it’s cold enough. Being NW and higher offers no real advantage in those. So recently the difference is less. I think if we go back to a +pdo with more coastal storms and inside runners they will go back to doing better again.

A high res ensemble seems like a good idea in theory. Have they tried to develop a system that actually works?

It didn’t snow anywhere in 2020 or 2023. And 2022 were mostly SWFE which aren’t great for the Shenandoah valley. But they can do way better in some years. But I don’t think it’s as reliable as it was 20 years ago.

Hopefully this will help you visualize. Now imagine if that circulation expands! It shifts the subtropical flow north. Which does 2 things. It simply shifts everything north. That’s not good if you were already on the southern edge of where it typically snowed much! But it also compresses the flow between the subtropics and the polar jet. So it speeds up the northern get stream. Which will tend to flatten it and prevent digging and make it harder to phase things since waves are racing by faster. It’s a lose lose.

Thanks. So essentially the sref is the last guidance of the previous cycle. Some think it’s a preview of the next cycle lol. Frankly with so many high res models now, NAM12, nam3, rgem, hrdrps, fv3, ARW1, ARW2, HRRR, Im not sure how much the SREF is going to tell us we didn’t already know. Especially given their outdated since I don’t think they’ve been updated in a long time.

Hmm

Is the 21z SREF run off the 18z models?

I won’t lie the lack of a healthy stj wave is hurting our chances a lot. But I do give this setup more of a chance than a typical NS miller b. If you remember when I explained how Feb 10, 2010 worked out…this has a similar flow going for it. as the NS SW enters the pac NW there is a wall in the flow ahead of it. It’s going to have to dive southeast and end to near X. Both feature move east in unison. If the wave can survive the shred factory flow in the Midwest and get to us intact as the tpv finally gets out if the way and the trough amplifies along the east coast it could develop in time.

I can't remember if the SREF is technically the last of the previous runs...or the first of the next ones. From the number of times it does NOT predict what the other meso models are about to do, I kind of think its the last run of the previous data.

We should get it

DCA is depressing...

It also helps to be at the summit of a ridge because of upslope. Being at 1030 at the summit of a ridge is way different than at 1030 in a valley. Not the same results...

It's not awful IMO. Baltimore isn't typically as bad as DC area with rush hour. Plus I often can get in and out without hitting the worst of it if I plan my commute. But it's still an extra hour than if I lived where most who commute in and out of the city do. My point is anyone could do what I do, I don't have some special birth right. I made a choice to move to the snowiest spot within reasonable commuting distance to DC/Baltimore. It's not 100% the snow, I do love it up here all around. I could do with a few less confederate flags...ugh, but its not most people. And its beautiful, and in the summer its 85 instead of 93! And there are a lot of recreational outdoor activities. But the snow was a BIG part of it, I wont lie. This would be a bit further to DC...but you could easily commute to one of the ridges near Mt Airy from DC in about the same time as my commute to Baltimore...and they don't to quite as good as me but they do about as much better than DC than I do v Baltimore. I sympathize with the snow weenies still in DC or Baltimore. I really do. I lived in the DC area for a long time. And it wasn't enough snow to make me happy...so I moved! But you all could do that...no wait...then we would have an UHI up here too...dont do that. There are no places. It's awful up here. The wolves terrorize us daily. Stay away. Oh on topic...things are trending better to break the 1" streak. At this point the thing I would be most worried about in DC would be for the boundary to shift back north because that initial wave amplifies before it can clear the area.

If I had a helicopter...

about 1035

I drive an hour to and from work everyday, I won't apologize for it! The place I bought was on the market for like a year! Any one of you could have got it... Kidding not kidding. I know its in jest but I suffer every work day for the few times a year I get more snow.