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Again if it was a postitive NAO with this strong el nino in December of course I would punt..And if the second half of the month showed MJO in phase 3-6..sure that's warm stuff....Euro weeklies look great for the last week or so of December into January..Again they could reverse tomorrow.nobody knows but to call December a warm month with no snow at this point is foolish like you are seeing on the NYC forum.
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MJO half of the month we are in the warm phases which you see phase 3-6..the second half of the month MJO is going into cold phases 7-8, Showing there is some hope for around the holidays. Plus NAO is negative even in the warm phases so it wont be a blowtorch
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The reason you don't punt December like most of the board is doing.
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That's a normal December here unless I'm color blind.
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Looking at the next few weeks it looks basically normal through mid month. I don't see this blowtorch that some are posting about. And this is no 2015 or 1997
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It doesn't have to be bitterly cold to get snow in December.
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A strong nino in December..Not a shock that December will be above normal temp wise. Hopefully we can squeeze some snow in before the end of the month.
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Nothing like being optimistic especially on this board.
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By the 20th we'll be in phase 8..I know phase 8 is cold..so that sets up some wintry weather the week of Christmas..extending into January with 1 or 2, if MJO is the only indicator.. Of course their other factors.
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And that was it for the winter. December was cold with no snow, the rest of the winter was a torch.
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Well thats good for my old bones. Hate dry and cold.
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It never snows on Thanksgiving. ..Average high is 52 degrees...We will be below avearge this Thanksgiving.
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How is this warm?
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Think you forgot Feb 1983.
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So we are due for a cold one I guess.
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Euro cold Thanksgiving day..big switch from yesterday when it was dumping all the cold out west..looks very wintry late next week.
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who's punting December?..It's November 13th lol
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That's not warm..it's a a few degrees above normal if a 360 hr temp match is correct.
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it is showing a few degrees above normal here which is in the mid 50s for Thanksgiving, which is very normal for bird day..PLUS it NEVER snows in November.
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lol..You got 4 months of winter ahead of you.And its only November 9th.
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A strong Nino..of course its going to be warm..no surprise by anybody who takes a realistic approach. Now that doesn't mean it can't snow.
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CFS a few days ago had a cold winter..It changes everyday! lol. CFS 2 last month had a torch for October..I mean why do we look at this garbage?..There is no way any model has any clue after 2 weeks and that's a stretch.I mean we have been on this site long enough to get down in freakin October.
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It's 2 months away..can you just enjoy the Fall?
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Fall like day in Dillsbirg PA 65 and rain.
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Their running it 4 times a day, I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I remember the days it ran only once at 12z at it was super accurate then.
