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Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
But wait, there's more. We got 1/4" of snow overnight, bringing our total up to 12.0". I feel beat up after yesterday after shoveling ~18" worth of snow (3.5" of sleet has the mass of 10.5" of 10:1 snow and we had 8.3" of snow that was probably about 12:1 or ~7" of 10:1 snow). And driving wise, as I showed last night, driving on sleet is probably worse than on snow as it slides more easily, plus it melts more slowly. My 12.0" is higher than most in my area, but that's because I followed meteorologist Bill Syrett's (from PSU's renowned weather lab) guidance to measure the sleet separately to avoid compaction (would've been 11.0" just measuring depth); until this storm I've been lower than folks in Metuchen and Edison this winter.https://theconversation.com/how-is-...-how-volunteers-tally-up-winter-storms-175628 -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
Sleet finished up around 9:15 pm and we added 0.2" more sleet for 3.5" total sleet + 8.3" snow for a grand total of 11.8" (unless we get some light snow overnight, which is possible), exceeding my 10.1" guess which I actually thought was aggressive yesterday morning, lol. Season total is up to 29.3", which is more than an average winter (about 28" in NB) and we have a lot more winter to go with plenty of cold air over the next 2 weeks and a few chances for more snow. Just reached our high temp for the day of 20F. My 4th and last shovel of the last 2" of dense sleet was tough - gonna sleep well tonight. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Sleet finished up around 9:15 pm and we added 0.2" more sleet for 3.5" total sleet + 8.3" snow for a grand total of 11.8" (unless we get some light snow overnight, which is possible), exceeding my 10.1" guess which I actually thought was aggressive yesterday morning, lol. Season total is up to 29.3", which is more than an average winter (about 28" in NB) and we have a lot more winter to go with plenty of cold air over the next 2 weeks and a few chances for more snow. Just reached our high temp for the day of 20F. My 4th and last shovel of the last 2" of dense sleet was tough - gonna sleep well tonight. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
As of 8 pm, we have 3.3" of sleet since 1 pm (0.8" the past 2 hours, which is 2.4" worth of snow - still under heavy bands), which brings our total up to 11.6" of snow/sleet, so I think we're going to hit a foot, which I didn't think would happen once it changed to sleet with 8.3" of snow o the ground. It's up to 19F.And here's the embarrassing but life affirming thing that happened afterwards. In every storm, once the local roads are plowed I like to drive around a little just to see how the roads are and maybe to pick up something to eat. So I stopped at Wawa and then, when Mickey D's was closed, the lights at Popeye's were on, so I pulled in without realizing their parking lot hadn't been plowed, but with my Forester, I was going through it fine until I was about to merge onto Old Post Rd (Edison) and got stuck in a plowed bank I couldn't see well. D'oh!I went across the street to a gas station to ask for a shovel to borrow/buy and luckily the man working there (an Indian gentleman about my age) said he didn't have a shovel, but said we could use the windshield squeegee thing and came with me to help try to get me out which was fantastic. He and I dug the wheels out for 5-10 minutes and then I rocked it back and forth a few times and got free. I thanked him profusely and offered him $50, but he declined and said we all need good karma (he was Indian) and enjoys helping people and I said how I've done the same thing many times and he smiled and said the world needs more people who just help each other. So a ****** situation became a very nice moment. And I need to get shovels for our cars, lol. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Clear the board after a change from snow to sleet and combine the two measurements. I've gotten 2.5" of sleet after 8.3" of snow for 10.8", but undisturbed areas have about 10" right now, due to compaction (I have a crusty 2" from last weekend, so I can use the snow on top of that for a good measurement). https://theconversation.com/how-is-snowfall-measured-a-meteorologist-explains-how-volunteers-tally-up-winter-storms-175628 -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
As of 6 pm, we've gotten 2.5" of mostly sleet since 1 pm (1/2" the past hour, which is 1.5" worth of snow as we've been under an intense band); that brings our total up to 10.8" of snow/sleet and we have a shot at a foot. 17F. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 6 pm, we've gotten 2.5" of mostly sleet since 1 pm (1/2" the past hour, which is 1.5" worth of snow as we've been under an intense band); that brings our total up to 10.8" of snow/sleet and we have a shot at a foot. 17F. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
Just got in from shoveling a 3rd time, but this was the 2" of mostly sleet that have fallen since around 1 pm (6" worth of 10:1 snow by mass) and it was tough. So, between 3 and 5 pm we got 1" of pure sleet giving us 2" since 1 pm, when we had 8.3", so we're now at 10.3" of sleet/snow, besting my 10.1" guess. It's up to 17F and hoping no ZR in the last 0.4-0.5 QPF the HRRR says we'll get (mostly sleet) by midnight, but the HRRR is showing 0.1" ZR. What a storm! -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Just got in from shoveling a 3rd time, but this was the 2" of mostly sleet that have fallen since around 1 pm (6" worth of 10:1 snow by mass) and it was tough. So, between 3 and 5 pm we got 1" of pure sleet giving us 2" since 1 pm, when we had 8.3", so we're now at 10.3" of sleet/snow, besting my 10.1" guess. It's up to 17F and hoping no ZR in the last 0.4-0.5 QPF the HRRR says we'll get (mostly sleet) by midnight, but the HRRR is showing 0.1" ZR. What a storm! -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Having some fun making a snow angel. The closest my wife has come to going outside was taking this pic from the upstairs bedroom, lol. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 3 pm, we got another 1/4" of sleet (1" so far, on top of our 8.3" of snow), so we're up to 9.3" of sleet/snow. Temp up to 17F now and pretty windy.We have another 0.7-0.8" of QPF (precip) to go as per the latest HRRR, that's 2-2.5" of sleet to go if all sleet (see the meso discussion below, which implies mostly/all sleet), but it also shows 0.1-0.2" QPF as freezing rain along 95 after 7 pm (assume that means sleet NW of 95 and rain SE of 95 during that time). Really don't want ZR, but since we might, I'm going to leave some sleet on my driveway/sidewalk to absorb any possible ZR rather than having an ice rink. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
So at 1 pm I cleared the board (as one is supposed to do after a precip change) and as of 2 pm we got another 3/4" of mixed snow/sleet, although the last 20 minutes it's been pure sleet, so our total snow/sleet total is 9.0". Newark just reported 9" and 7-10" are common all over CNJ/NNJ (my friend in Colts Neck got 9" of snow before the change). Even if we only get sleet from here on, the counties south of 78 in EPA/CNJ and then SW along 95 in SEPA/SNJ are still supposed to get heavy precip for a few more hours, so getting to my 10.1" prediction seems almost like a sure thing, give the very recent NWS update to the warning, linked below, which says we could get up to 4" more sleet/snow, plus 0.2" freezing rain on top (but that's not a given at all). The northern counties N of 78 are expected to get 2-8" more snow/sleet - that range is so wide because some will get all snow (likely the Poconos/Sussex) and some will have sleet mixing. https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=PHI&wwa=winter storm warning -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
As of 12 pm, we had 7.0" of snow and it was snowing very heavily at 14F. I then shoveled for the next hour and around 12:40 or so, some sleet mixed in, but it wasn't "classic" spherical pellets, it looked more like small rods that might've actually been poorly formed flakes - weird stuff. Anyway, finished my 2nd shoveling (denser) around 1 pm and we now have about 8.3", but it's getting harder to tell as the winds have picked up considerably, blowing/drifting the snow, so I had to average a bunch of measurements (luckily there's old crusty snow underneath, so not measuring on the board isn't an issue like it is on grass). Made a nice snow angel. Definitely a mix of snow and sleet and it keeps oscillating on which one dominates. And if you want to see downtown Metuchen, News12 is doing a remote from there. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 12 pm, we had 7.0" of snow and it was snowing very heavily at 14F. I then shoveled for the next hour and around 12:40 or so, some sleet mixed in, but it wasn't "classic" spherical pellets, it looked more like small rods that might've actually been poorly formed flakes - weird stuff. Anyway, finished my 2nd shoveling (denser) around 1 pm and we now have about 8.3", but it's getting harder to tell as the winds have picked up considerably, blowing/drifting the snow, so I had to average a bunch of measurements (luckily there's old crusty snow underneath, so not measuring on the board isn't an issue like it is on grass). Made a nice snow angel. Definitely a mix of snow and sleet and it keeps oscillating on which one dominates. And if you want to see downtown Metuchen, News12 is doing a remote from there. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 11 am, still snowing heavily and up to 6.0" of snow otg, for a rate of 1.6"/hr the last 30 minutes - wow! 13F and just pouring snow. Sleet line looks to be in Wilmington - latest HRRR has us in snow until about 3 pm and if that verifies, we'd get another 6" or so before the sleet. We'll see, but certainly seems like 9-10" is a lock before the change and then maybe 1-2" sleet (but likely mixed with some snow, so maybe higher ratios than 3:1 for pure sleet). Also, I got my snow to liquid ratio for the snow that fell through about 9:00 am when we had about 3.6" of snow - it was 14:1. I thought it would be at least 15:1, so off on that guess a little bit, probably because the flakes the first few hours were not large dendrites, so even though they were smaller dendrites and very dry, they packed in more than expected. Did this by taking a 6" x 6" x 3.6" cube of snow and melting it and doing the volume ratio. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
As of 10:30 am, snowing legitimately heavily (1/4 mile visibility) with a bit larger dendrites and we now have 5.2" otg (1.2" last hour) at 13F (10F dewpoint). Just went for a Jeb Walk and took a few pics - gorgeous out there. Also, I got my snow to liquid ratio for the snow that fell through about 9:00 am when we had about 3.6" of snow - it was 14:1. I thought it would be at least 15:1, so off on that guess a little bit, probably because the flakes the first few hours were not large dendrites, so even though they were smaller dendrites and very dry, they packed in more than expected. Did this by taking a 6" x 6" x 3.6" cube of snow and melting it and doing the volume ratio. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 10:30 am, snowing legitimately heavily (1/4 mile visibility) with a bit larger dendrites and we now have 5.2" otg (1.2" last hour) at 13F (10F dewpoint). Just went for a Jeb Walk and took a few pics - gorgeous out there. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
Here's a PSA for snowfall measurement: clear the board after the change to sleet and sum the snow and sleet measurements together; otherwise you'll likely get some compaction. This is from a great article on snow measurement in The Conversation based on NWS guidelines. Or maybe we'll get lucky and get no sleet, lol. More complicated cases of measurement So, let’s consider three common scenarios. Here in the eastern U.S., we often have to deal with snow that changes to rain during the course of a storm. Imagine 6.0 inches (15 cm) of snow falls, then an inch (2.5 cm) of sleet which compacts the snow to a 4-inch (10-cm) depth. Then, on top of that falls an inch of freezing rain which further compacts the snow to 2.6-inch (6.6-cm) depth by the end of the observation period. What should be listed as the daily snowfall? The snow depth? In this situation, when the snow transitions to sleet, the snow board should be cleared and the maximum depth of snow recorded – 6 inches (15 cm) in this case. Do the same with the sleet and this will add an inch (2.5 cm) to the snowfall – technically, “solid precipitation” – total. Freezing rain is never added to the daily snowfall total because it is in liquid form when it reaches the ground. Thus, the daily snowfall is 7.0 inches (measured to the nearest tenth of an inch) (17.8 cm), while the snow depth at observation is rounded up from 2.6 inches (6.6 cm) to 3 inches (7.6 cm). https://theconversation.com/how-is-snowfall-measured-a-meteorologist-explains-how-volunteers-tally-up-winter-storms-175628 -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Here's a PSA for snowfall measurement: clear the board after the change to sleet and sum the snow and sleet measurements together; otherwise you'll likely get some compaction. This is from a great article on snow measurement in The Conversation based on NWS guidelines. Or maybe we'll get lucky and get no sleet, lol. More complicated cases of measurement So, let’s consider three common scenarios. Here in the eastern U.S., we often have to deal with snow that changes to rain during the course of a storm. Imagine 6.0 inches (15 cm) of snow falls, then an inch (2.5 cm) of sleet which compacts the snow to a 4-inch (10-cm) depth. Then, on top of that falls an inch of freezing rain which further compacts the snow to 2.6-inch (6.6-cm) depth by the end of the observation period. What should be listed as the daily snowfall? The snow depth? In this situation, when the snow transitions to sleet, the snow board should be cleared and the maximum depth of snow recorded – 6 inches (15 cm) in this case. Do the same with the sleet and this will add an inch (2.5 cm) to the snowfall – technically, “solid precipitation” – total. Freezing rain is never added to the daily snowfall total because it is in liquid form when it reaches the ground. Thus, the daily snowfall is 7.0 inches (measured to the nearest tenth of an inch) (17.8 cm), while the snow depth at observation is rounded up from 2.6 inches (6.6 cm) to 3 inches (7.6 cm). https://theconversation.com/how-is-snowfall-measured-a-meteorologist-explains-how-volunteers-tally-up-winter-storms-175628 -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Yeah, looks like it's almost in Cape May -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 8:30 am snowing moderately and we have 3.1" otg (1.1" last hour) and it's 11F. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
NWS maps hard to follow these days. This is a weird range map at odds with the colors, plus it starts at 7 am, so it's not the event map, which is below, starting at 4 am, so I don't think they cut amounts. Wish they'd only issue event maps - users can look and compare to what they have so far. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
As of 8:00 am 2.6" otg at 11F, so 0.6" the last 30 min - can't imagine not making it to at least 8" with at least 5 hours of >1"/hr rates before any changeover (and hopefully the changeover is after that and rates are more than 1" per hour until then). Started around 5 am. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 8:00 am 2.6" otg at 11F, so 0.6" the last 30 min - can't imagine not making it to at least 8" with at least 5 hours of >1"/hr rates before any changeover (and hopefully the changeover is after that and rates are more than 1" per hour until then). -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 7:30 am snow intensity and flake size have increased and we have 2.0" otg at 11F, so 1.25" last hour. This stuff has to be 15-20:1 ratio snow, it's so light and fluffy.
