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ILN even mentioned it. They don't usually bring up snow until a day or two before.

I'm not even sure what to think at this point. Is a low spinning out like that over the lakes even a valid solution? I know this is a rare/unusual pattern so models will likely struggle for quite a bit longer.

This man is an oracle.

Yeah it's bad. The last 5 or so years have been pretty comical at times. Outside of northern parts of the state we always find a way into the screw zone.

My superstition runs deep

Today's models like to come in hot with the cold to start next week off. Question will be whether or not there's anything for it to phase with or if most of us will stay dry.

Yeah possibly, followed by the torch of a lifetime.

Eh... I will be genuinely surprised if anyone south of I-80 sees anything.

Currently getting NAM'D.

Crazy wind here. 8 dead trees uprooted and one live tree snapped. Easily 60mph gusts.

We know a lot better. Especially in the last 5 years or so... we don't count on snow until it's done falling.

It's 2020 so yes.

Never froze here in Union County. Got down to 32 on the 17th, bot only had a light frost. Looks like a widespread freeze early next week.

We've been in the 70s for the most part up until this point. This week doesn't look as warm.

October has been quite warm and wet here. Already 3.23" with another rainy week with warm temps ahead.

Lookin pretty torchy for us in the Ohio Valley as we go into late October and early November. Hopefully winter has something up it's sleeve.

We had one of our largest snowstorms ever in March of 2008. I think it was a fairly dismal winter up until that point. Ended around 46" for the season.

You could live in Ohio. We're always on the outside looking in.

Well yeah, it's theoretically possible. One could see it as being just as possible as snow later in the Spring (which we had this year). My area has only seen measurable snow in October five times since records have been kept. One of those times was from the remnants of Sandy. Early snows seem to be the trend in the last decade. I just don't know how I feel about seeing it this early on.

I just can't... I can't even imagine something like this. I can understand it's possible for stuff like this to happen soon in the Upper Midwest, but I don't recall fantasy storms this early.

They did stifle information about the virus and prosecute, and maybe even kill (can't be proven) those who tried to warn us about the virus. Remember... early on it was Trump who was being overly cautious in handling things. China said it was okay, our doctors said it would be bad. Trump has never been one to bounce back from criticism if he thinks we was "right" the first time.

Dr. Conley clearly had specific instructions from Trump as to what he was allowed to say. Were they downplaying the severity of his status? Probably, but who doesn't? Haven't we all had that initial reaction when we first start feeling sick that it's just nothing? Of course the President is easily the most on display and public person in the world, but it's really not necessary to prod information that really has no impact. What would knowing every single detail really tell us? For example, would him having a cough instead of congestion or fatigue instead of a fever (I understand that the symptoms are not mutually exclusive) tell us that much about his condition? Having been through the virus myself and knowing many with it now, I can say that the condition of someone with the virus can change extremely rapidly. However, we also know that each case can be unique. Sorry to ramble but I think the most important takeaway should be that his carelessness with the virus since the first wave is probably what got him in this mess in the first place. I just really don't like the "trust the science unless it's good news for Trump" narrative that hasn't been adopted yet, but it seems that some are heading there.

This is my first time reading through this thread. In regards to some of the speculation as to why Trump would be taking such aggressive medications and treatments, I'm fairly certain there has long been a plan in place for if (probably when) Trump got the virus. I wouldn't be surprised if doctors had done a thorough investigation as to which treatments would be most effective and what he could handle. After all, they would be quite familiar with his health after 3.5 yers.

I really have no Idea what happened. It was supposed to be this.

Can we just lock this in Nov-Feb?