Stevo6899

Very conservative wsw amounts in the wording/text for southern iowa, 5-10. Should say potential for more than 12.

Plz do this with 12+ snowstorms.

Well without the block, its raining most places, but the blocks also shearing it out. Thus is the hard knock big dog life in SE MI. Maybe we'll luck out and it will keep its act together longer.

Is the interaction with the confluence to the north causing this shearing?

Still blows its loads quickly and low weakens as it slides east. Looks good for chicago and WSW.

It seems some models that keep this further south, are weakening the low rather quickly, thus the more east track vs NE once it gets to indiana. Is it weakening due to the interaction with the northern confluence, not allowing the low to track where it wants, or is it just maxing out quickly due to the overall lack of strength of the low origin?

The euro is weakening the low and precip shield significantly as it heads east. Some concern there for the detroit crew. The u.k. strengthens it as it moves east. I guess at this point, you'd have to give the nod to the euro as its been more consistent with this storm than the uk.

I'd be more worried about the energy coming out in pieces, and a miss south with the main energy than ice, sleet and a bigger threat with all the energy ejecting together. Most models seem to be keying on the former occuring.

Id like where i am sitting if i I were chicago and detroit as it can only go so far north. Obviously still a ways to go but if anything Id expect it to come a little south of todays euro. We've also seen the euro be over amped often this winter at this range.

Its been awhile since we've had the chance to all be excited, especially a spread the wealth storm for chicago, N indiana and detroit as all 3 are represented well on here.

Euro looks canadianish, actually stronger and further north. Gonna be a good run. Des moines snow magnet on and in full force this winter.

Very rarely do we have more than a foot of snowcover. Any weenie, local or not, would complain if you were forecasted 18-24, and only got a foot or so (GHD), especially east of the snow glacier here in SEMI. At this point, if it aint gonna snow 8+, im fine with a zzzz period like you've had. But as you said, its all relative. 3-6 events don't get me excited anymore, even in a dull winter.

Sure there's been a few decent storms in december and january but the majority of D and J's have been uneventful. Of course its all relative as you consider 2 inches on the ground for 3 plus weeks exciting. Gonna be almost 4 weeks of nothingness, assuming something delivers in the jan 26-30 timeframe. Sunny the next 7 days and close to 80 down here in florida. I picked a good winter to skip.

The storm is on alot of the models so there is some agreement. Will it change on the next set of runs, probably. I think you need some marijuana or xanax in your life, or both.

I just think most people on here don't complain or get all upset about something they have no control over. Some winters just are duds, it happens.

Short version of that....Colder, but average cold is coming. The lack of strong, organized, cross country low pressure systems with deformation band snow this winter is surprising. Running out of winter days to cash in. No legit threats on the horizon. Better likelihood of an earthquake.

Nobodys humping anything. People are discussing long range winter. Simply checking out the models in the long range does no harm. I think everyone knows to take them with a grain of salt. Check out the thread title. There's nothing else going on currently in the region so there's not much else to focus on. Its prob best if you stay out of the thread, and not scare away the people with actual knowledge

Its a what have you done for me lately winter weenie crew on here. One day you'll understand that. The past few winters and this winter, nothing lately. We have had no real organized systems affect Michigan. Just dusters from a few secondary mostly positive tiltled low pressures that NE, E ohio has cashed in on but thats about it. Its gonna be atleast mid jan before anyone east of iowa (small part of IL just cashed in recently), west of cleveland will see any kind of respectable snowstorm, and its okay for people to be frustrated because thats more than a bad start.....I didnt realize Pittsburgh has been a snow magnet so far this winter. Good for them. They are usually sandwiched in between noreasters and panhandle hookers, colorado lows, not getting big snows, just like detroit.

Hahaha yea it went a bit further nw but by then it weakened. Looks like it dropped 2-3 inches before moving nw of detroit. Nickle, diming, and dusting to the avg. Can't wait for Josh to turd polish our winter in april saying he grades this winter an A since we reached our average, not mentioning that we didnt have one 6 inch storm, and if we do, it'll take 24 hours to get those 6 inches.

I remember the days where we had to worry about nw trends but that hasnt been the case for awhile. Rap/nam have been consistent bringing the banding to about m-59. Dtx seems to think it'll stay at the border.

Yea my coworker back home is a huge snowlover and told me all about the christmas snow. Think my house got around 4 inches that day, although it took like 20 hours to get 4 inches. First Christmas in awhile that had decent accumulating snow. Just down here in florida for the winter. Since we suck at legit snowstorms, i figured i wouldn't miss a thing. Not one thunderstorm down here since ive been here lol. Maybe its me? Hopefully y'all can get surprised tomorrow and some banding can setup, ala feb 5, 2011. Ill always remember that storm. Mother nature felt sorry for us about GHD I going NW last minute and threw us a bone. Models had the feb 5 wave tracking down through Kentucky but somehow detroit reeled it in the last 48 hours.

Its hard enough to get a legit snowstorm in detroit. Even harder to get a snowstorm with a decent snowcover preceding it. Its seems more often than not, snowcover melts before we can add on. Ive been living in naples florida since nov 1st. Glad Ive missed all our dusters so far. Looks like it was mostly snow earlier today north of 696, where most was supposed to be a mix. Unfortunately dry air snuck in and the dryslot zoomed north quickly before more than 2 inches could accumulate. Looks like a bust in SW MI in regards to icing the models were potentially showing there. Hopefully soon we can get a forum wide, organized, strong storm to deliver heavy snow.

I noticed the canadian hinting at a small intense band of snow with some trailing energy from Friday/saturday system. Its still there, so could be a nice surprise for some areas that haven't seen much snow so far.

You know its been a rough start to winter when oklahoma has had more snow and the texas/mexico border gets a winter storm watch before you do.

Yea the euro has been over-amping and been far too west with a few systems this winter. It had the storm a few weeks ago that went just west of the apps, bombing out and tracking near Chicago 120+ hrs out. If I had to guess id say a track more like todays Canadian is more likely, possibly even more SE. I cant remember the last time a secondary tracked due north and northwest in the winter. Just hoping it doesnt shiat the bed and occlude/get shunted east too quickly. Wish i was a player in the titan/packers game tonight. Nothing like getting paid to play in heavy snow.