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Everything posted by ORH_wxman
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Kind of a bush league warmup on EPS…keeps washing out the warmest anomalies west and northwest of us. Which is what we’d expect with a rotting NAO block. Maybe we get a cutter to get a couple days of true torch.
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That’s a bit of an April ‘97 snowfall distribution in E MA (but not into S ME)
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Wouldn’t put any stock into a d10-11 output regardless of which model it was. Well see how the AIs look vs OPs in another few days. AI runs have had that storm off and on the last few cycles.
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Yeah that’s later on post-Ides. I have no idea what’s going to happen during that late Feb/early Mar period. If you keep the Atlantic blocking during that period and then try and insert a -EPO, then we could get something exotic.
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Def colder look mid-month….on both GFS and Canadian suites. Always be weary of the big torch look when you get blocking like that in the Atlantic…esp when there’s been a lot of recent cold with deep snow pack over a large area. Hopefully we can score one of these. Usually we can if historical -PNA/-NAO is any guide. Usually our bigger concern is ptype and not suppression.
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Crazily enough, that month left some on the table too.
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Yeah Mar 2018 blocking was epic you’d have shortwaves pretty amplified out in the plains/Rockies and the thing would turn into a snow threat.
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2001 also kind of didn’t have the PV on our side for the most part. It was more over toward Europe and east Atlantic. Monster blocking in 2001 though. We did get a PV lobe in southeast Canada early that month which phased with the main trough to produce the interior New England HECS. But 2018 is prob the best example of not having the PV anywhere near us but still a prolific month due to the excessive blocking. That month didn’t have high end cold at all. We had basically a climo airmass for the first snow bomb on 3/7-8. A little colder for the Wilmington jackpot storm but still nothing impressive temp-wise.
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Let’s go March 2018…PV on other side of pole but we just crushed it with that blocking regardless.
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If it’s been a decent winter, he sometimes gets “early-March curious”…he will pretend early March is an extension of February (which it often is)
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Well I don’t know where they live but pretty much every time someone tries to “end winter” in New England that early, they are wrong. Unless it’s one of those epic ratter years like 1994-95 or 2019-2020. If they are talking about not seeing highs of 15F and lows of -10F again…yeah, that’s like saying we won’t see 95F again on August 15th…prob correct but there’s still going to be plenty of summer wx to get through.
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The OP run basically had us N or BN almost the entire run. GEFS look warmer at the end of the run. I expect a period of AN temps but I’m not expecting a bunch of double digit positive departures like we saw for a week in January.
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We had a brief warmup after Cmas around the 28-29th but yeah, the real warmup was 2nd week of January. It’s been pretty cold otherwise. I’m not on the torch train at all for mid-Feb. I think it will be AN but only modestly…seems like guidance has been trending to push systems underneath us as we get closer to that period versus the other way around. To be fair, even modestly AN will feel like a furnace given the previous 3 weeks.
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That rotting NAO block combined with loss of cross polar flow sort of just keeps the geopotential gradient lower over the region which may work to our advantage if that rotting block successfully prevents cutters (which it does on this GFS run and various other model runs)…if it’s able to do that, then we could get some decent looks. It’s also the “pre-spring” look…I’m sure you will get what I mean…it’s not quite the full blown spring look with very rapid seasonal recovery south of us…but it’s def not “deep winter” across the CONUS anymore. It’s the r type of loom where we can have -7C 850 ambient temp atmosphere but you are hitting 37-40F during the day. But as soon as a system comes in from the Ohio valley and is forced underneath, that 37-40F turns to snow event in the 20s to near 30F. It’s basically a slightly colder version of the blue bomb look in late March when we’re pimping -1C at 850 with high temps in the 50s, but as soon as a bowling ball hits that airmass, it’s 32F and parachutes.
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Warmth def gets centered west and north of us for mid-month (as currently modeled). That will keep us in the game for winter wx threats…and we’ve been seeing that on all guidance at different times.
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Friday February 6 FROPA / WINDEX small event
ORH_wxman replied to HoarfrostHubb's topic in New England
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Biggest question mid month is do we still score some snow events despite the milder look. AI models really are hedging that way…OP models more mixed in their solutions.
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Cape has had a sneaky good winter.
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Yes. 2/13-14 on euro Skynet and GFS Skynet has a couple threats…one around 2/11 and another 2/15.
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Both skynet models have been more bullish for keeping snow chances (even with moderated temps) than the regular model suites in the second week of February. We’ll see as we get closer if that’s more correct. They have been performing pretty well imho overall. They never got very bullish on the 1/31-2/1 threat (correctly so), stayed more bullish than OPs on both the 1/18-19 and 1/25 threats (also correctly). Still in clown range for now.
