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frightening as i hate olives

Nice little event Can U check and see how much is at that plot at 1900” in eden , VT Lol

In the upslope spots of N VT you just have such a lower variance . Can’t really do worse than 150” at 2K from Nov to end of April

Brady not a big fan of meeting opposing QB at mid field after a loss ...

i deleted that post before your response because as i sorted thru it...your point above is correct and instead of edit my post and make it longer i just hit delete before you responded. Yes ICU ages and Deaths can always be compared thru the waves so yes they are definitely up from the summer. They aren't near the spring levels (ICU USE or deaths ) but obviously up and that's no shock because the testing methods over the summer can be related to current positives cases numbers (even if testing has still increased some) . If you track the current positive case numbers among 70-79 year old AND 80 plus that unfortunately will give folks a great idea when deaths will or wont spike a couple weeks later much more so than general hospitalizations but i understand we can't over whelm the hospitals so that general hospital data is important for its own reasons. I don''t see a tremendous correlation with young people numbers rising first and passing it to older folks...i don't believe the spread takes that much time across age groups but maybe i'm missing something . Whitinsville WX basically articulated what i was trying to say but better.

The market is a casino. Most legendary traders ...Jeremy Grantham...Buffet are very clearly calling a bubble and they admit they are not going to be accurate at timing the bubble.....but that its current valuations are not sustainable with regard to Schiller PE or Market cap/GDP just like in 1999 or 2008 when they made similar calls about a year early. I just wonder Hippy, if the global central banks are just even more in now. MMT was basically launched and followed since 2008/2009 crisis...rates have been pinned at 0% for nearly a decade minus the Fed experiment to raise them in 2018 when the market hemorrhaged or in 2019 when the economy was so "strong" that the Fed had to conduct big time repo operations beginning last SEPT to keep financial market assets climbing (bc in a bubble you either climb or implode) . Point being..the Fed isn't done trying and they will get more "radical" with their balance sheet expansion. Perhaps even telegraph direct equity purchases if need be. ECB would probably lead this charge. People always are quick to say ....whoa whoa whoa this policy isn't working....look a the inequality blah blah blah. So long as the top 1-2% can keep accruing wealth and see their paper assets grow...its working just the way as intended.

Third Consecutive Monday that positive vaccine news is announced around 7am. This time it’s Oxford -AstraZeneca Vaccine initial efficacy And it has less obstacles bc it can be stored at non obscene temps https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55041371

Increasing risk of a double dip recession Q1/Q2 2021. Fiscal inaction from a deeply divided congress magnifies the economic consequences (slowdown) from Covid scaling back economic activity , particularly in the industries currently in severe recession But also as revenue shortfalls begin to lead to their own dominos . The next few quarters , the economic pain has a couple paths to climb the socioeconomic ladder And gain market share In the middle class and upper middle class as job losses should regain steam this winter w Covid rises and provide cover for cost cutting measures in middle management and people furloughed as a less enticing view of the recovery comes into focus as well as dealing with revenue shortfalls ..especially in major cities where large local and state aid via stimulus was counted on. Bank losses in the commercial real estate sector may weigh on and potentially generate “ issues” in Europe first . Most see the economy growing nicely in second half of year but not recapturing pre pandemic levels for a while and the recovery to be sort of “K” shaped. Middle class potentially hollowed out a bit . We shall see, hopefully the virus abates faster.

They are also culling the homeless due to high rates of spread amongst them. Newsom said it’s a horrible but necessary decision.

Covid (and Covid lockdowns / Fear appeals ) effect on Food , Housing and Employment Hardships . https://www.cbpp.org/research/poverty-and-inequality/tracking-the-covid-19-recessions-effects-on-food-housing-and What are the costs anyway

About 80% of my Gf's constituents were pushing back ..she teaches 3'rd grade. .there were 2 i know personally who have significant medical issues (personally and with a spouse) that caused them to balk at any kind of in person learning. One is completely fine( made peace with it) .. she went back (she is Italian and would let everyone know otherwise) and one took the year off at her husbands urging. There was another 2 who wanted remote but then when they had to either go back in and teach remotely or go back in for hybrid (or not get paid) they came around to hybrid. They told my GF ( who worked with them initially in teaching groups that when they went back and interacted with humans again... their anxiety went way down and are comfortable in the classroom now, but obviously they want the cleanest conditions possible

Mass Hospitalizations have increased from 588 to 917 in last 10 days . That data is pretty much in line with daily case number rise from 17 days to 7 days ago (there is approx a week lag between the ave. person testing positive and those of them that require hospitalization) . The 6 metrics just released this week (which are updated on Wednesday and Saturday) look like a very good comprehensive list of where the area stands with regard to the virus impacts , especially at hospitals. While Hospitalizations have ramped up in last 10 days ..the percent of available ICU beds seems to have not moved..Which i find odd ...thou those probably have a general lag over hospitalizations...But it's odd they haven't moved much in last 2 weeks. If you take Walsh at his word, It's clear they don't want to Roll back much further.unless forced to.. perhaps due to the lasting economic damage that is cumulative and beginning to seriously strain revenue and create a ton of budget cut anxiety? Will be interesting to follow the hospitalization data and how it correlates of not with daily rising cases. https://www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2020/11/18/new-boston-coronavirus-metrics

Wow , it usually takes a few weeks to fill up a whole page of a NNE thread , w PF talking w himself and maybe a stray moose that signed on , and J spin throwing in a couple precise measurement posts .

I could tell you there was a significant divide , basically similar to the general public . Thou there were more general willingness to go back in person for youngest kids but still a ton of disagreements . Reason being almost every single teacher new the level of education via various studies the kids were getting via remote would be (poor) and Not pretty good or decent (for elementary specifically) but well below average ..but also dependent on kids attention spans and teachers working themselves to death putting extra effort into transforming lesson plans on line in exciting and effective ways . Also, that kids with poor attention spans or from lower income (where mom/ day can’t work from home ) would basically be left behind . That will break many teachers hearts. So often it came down to teachers age , outstanding health risks , and interaction with older family that couldn’t be avoided ..were factors in the teachers I spoke with who were concerned . Some of the teachers who were very well off and concerned simply took the year off, however given Revenue shortfalls coming and subsequent budget cuts and lack of a stimulus so far ..hopefully they can be rehired next year, but that is up in the air .

He didn’t have to pay back the loan principal itself did he? I believe as long as so much% was used toward payroll and perhaps “rent” they were more like grants Just for clarity (not with you ) but anyone else , The PPP program isn’t what the Treasury just killed , they killed a under used Fed lending facility to small businesses that was not initiating loans and dying businesses don’t want or need regular loans , they need more PPP lending (which isn’t paid back)

The head of the Mass teacher union sure is a peach I have someone close to me who works with all superintendents and has worked with her since her appointment and calls her appointment a grave mistake As she seems to enjoy a fight a tad too much 134 Schools begin phase 1 of Abbott rapid sting in Early December , but will be used only on Symptomatic potential carriers . The amount of variance in teacher opinions regarding school seems on par with the variance in ordinary society with a general lean toward hybrid in person toward elementary and toward hybrid/ full remote for H.S

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mnuchin-pulls-plug-on-some-coronavirus-emergency-lending-programs-over-feds-objections-11605826491?mod=home-page Seems to me Treasury wants the 455 billion back so they can use it toward a stimulus IMO ASAP Those fed programs were barely being used if I recall correctly , the Fed was not initiating small business loans at all to keep business going W these programs and if they state they wanted them “in case” I have no idea what case they were waiting for to initiate the loan programs but they were way 2 stringent W those particular credit facilities and were holding up 455 B.

Closing everything but ski resorts . Stimulus to be used for snow making

32 and partial sunshine.

Germany gave up on it after trying. Seems like it would have been most effective in USA if we did it mid summer before the summer mini spike that occurred and then later formed a higher "base case plateau" for this fall one to build off. Wasn't happening with Trumpy.

Delivering a message with the goal of altering behavior toward something deemed more desirable is sometimes a delicate balance. This is the case whether you are trying to get Young male drivers to be more careful or to make people take precautions that keep them more distant from others due to a virus The later however..is much more complicated and opens up a whole can of worms with regard to the range of behavior responses which is dependent on many variables (not limited to but including) the amount of repetition (of a message), the amount of anxiety it can and will provoke in a individual which can overwhelm a decision making process, as well as coping mechanisms of denial, and other issues like creating isolation that causes depression. It's really very fascinating to me as Psychology is always very interesting to me. Fear appeals work. I wouldn't deem them inappropriate but they can be abused and its a delicate balance and especially so when you are dealing with a issue that is bound to have a very large variation regarding individuals psychological impact . Seeing them in action reminds me of the saying "in order to make an omelette you gotta break a few eggs" Some folks have cracked (I.E developed legit anxiety disorders from Covid) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1090198120935073

Which is why a lack of a targeted stimulus via PPP/PUA should have massive protests and Congress thrown out . Otherwise restrictions just leads to forced poverty and suffering of other groups , which i think highlights the shallowness of the inequality movement AND a lack of awareness of Covid economic effects. Nobody seems to realize that Covid and lockdowns and lack of stimulus since August has tremendously widened wealth inequality in a year when people and corporations act like they care bc it’s “in”. Lots of people have various stressors in their lives and this tremendous cost of Covid being borne in certain industries (which minorities are over represented) just isn’t Brought up in the news cycle to raise awareness.

I was trying to generate discussion just like this I had read the UK was already seeing signs of a peak (lowered transmission rates I believe ) right Before the lockdowns began , I don’t have much else to add as I’m not aware of the attitudes of folks in those countries or their governments measures , thou I recall reading that Spain measures were sort of Draconian in a Wall Street chart comparing the different levels of shutdowns and restrictions in all countries.

Just like much higher numbers were telegraphed in US Covid data couple weeks again it’s now clear and good news that Germany Spain UK France All above countries are now on a clear downswing of their second wave Peak) Italy appears to have peaked last week as well How much lower from the peak they can trend and for how long will be interesting to follow given winter upon us , Do they go down another 25% or plateau soon At a relatively high level and head up again