I made a post way back in nov or dec saying it wasnt going to get cold in the east as long as it was cold in alaska and wet in california. Naturally i was called an idiot. Next season when the winter forecasts come out in sept-nov remember how they failed this year. We will have many posts during next winter with all kinds of indices, strat warms, neg nao's, and east coast trofs. Hopefully next winter we will actually have a cold snowy winter but lets simplify the forecasts. Look to Alaska, if they are having an above normal temp start thats good for us. If California looks like it will be dry thats also good for us. Those are the 2 best indicators for winter in the east.