LibertyBell

Should be 4 nights in a row, what were the local area lows this morning?

Yep and that would be a sad commentary on the US if China leaves them behind....it means we'd probably be wearing masks for air pollution reasons within a few decades. Have you found any numbers on when the US is going to stop making fossil fuel powered cars? I mean, if Europe and Asia do it, the US would probably not have a choice in the matter, the manufacturers will stop making them regardless of our laws, I think fossil fuel powered vehicles are already losing ground to EVs here?

Yes, I think they need to realize that "standing still" is the same as going backwards. Time is always moving forward, so if you're not moving forward too, you're going backwards. Shortsightedness like we're seeing today, had it been implemented in the past, wouldn't have gotten us this far. And if the US doesn't take the lead here, we'll be left far behind China and other nations that are moving forward. China has quite the booming EV market already.

astrophysics, I love it ;-) the cosmological constant may be better explained if we have a multiverse and a cyclic big bounce universe via black hole cosmology ala Poplawski's conjecture with a CC that's slowly winding down (as indicated by some supercomputer simulations). But that is way OT lol.

we're building 300 miles of windfarms offshore in NY and NJ...... I have read an indepth analysis of them and they do not increase bird deaths, because they use good AI algorithms that allow them to shut off a section of the windfarm when birds are approaching. They are quite effective. Many more bird deaths occur when birds slam into windows than windfarms. In addition to that, these coastal windfarms may lower the energy of oncoming TC's (somewhat).

Don it is interesting if one substitutes the available evidence into some other field of science in an analogous way then the evidence is readily accepted by everyone outside of the extreme fringe (whom we label "flat earthers" and the like.) I have to think that there is effective propaganda that is corrupting the minds of those who would otherwise be more objective about this. Just looking at the new data coming in on how fast sea level is rising is quite sobering- it's as bad as the worst case scenario models said it would be. But I still have hope.....Europe seems to be closing the era on fossil fuel powered vehicles:

This is some good news- most of Europe will stop making fossil fuel powered vehicles by 2030. I couldn't find any nation which didn't have plans to stop making them between 2030 and 2040 outside of Australia, not surprising considering what kind of govt they have and who funds them. They will likely be left behind.

Yes New Zealand has one of my favorite leaders, quickly acted on gun reform and the pandemic too. My question for you Don is that if we dont even agree on what needs to be done until 2050, wouldn't that mean that the much needed action we need right now wouldn't happen until 2100? Meanwhile I see that sea level rise is actually occurring at the pace on the most bullish of models and at this rate, sea level rise will be around 8 feet by 2100?! To put this into more immediate numbers, right now we average around 4 days of flooding per year, by 2050 this could be more like 50 days of flooding per year?

Thanks, Don! I guess LGA will be awhile yet. Did either FOK or MJX get to freezing or below as far as you know? Those are the two noted radiational cooling champions in our area.

Looks like Muttontown was down around 37. Anyone have any numbers out of FOK? Did they get below freezing for the first time this season? I'm still in NE PA (coming back tomorrow) we had a frost here, low was 28 degrees at Blakeslee, which is the closest station I could find to my location.

we had upper 20s in mid October a few years ago on the South Shore. I dont remember what year it was but it was after 2014 and RJay was quite excited about it heh.

With all this cold, what is causing it to end up above normal? We should just go by the last 10 years, 30 years ago is ancient history and not representative of our current climate.

Thanks Don, do you have the lows for JFK and LGA too?

Meanwhile there was this dopey response to that post; I sure hope the daughter didn't listen.

Yes! I think this is something everyone should agree about! This is actually a global problem, not just a US problem. I posted this on the political side too: Big headlines about how Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan Chase, Barclays, Mellon, etc., were subverting checks and balances in place by allowing one of Putin's ministers to pass over 2 trillion pounds in funds to Britain's conservative Tory party through multiple shell corporations. The plot thickens! So it's not enough that they rob us of our money with high interest rates and predatory lending practices and subsidize the dirty fossil fuel industry, they are also subverting democracy on the highest of levels too? Enough of this! I recommend everyone switch to community banks, which actually care about the communities they serve. Looks like North Korea is in on it too (courtesy of wannabehippie from the Political forum): https://thehill.com/policy/finance/banking-financial-institutions/517322-north-korea-laundering-money-through-us-banks

I wonder if that part of Nassau County can get into the 30s before FOK does?

and air pollution is an argument to make against fossil fuels, not for haha

Weird how difficult it is to get a below normal September....even if we have an above normal rest of the month after Monday, there isn't much left in the month; October will start in 10 days.

why is it so damn hard for the city to get below 50 degrees in September? I have seen it get below 50 in AUGUST. People need to start ripping out that godawful concrete......

I would like to see that! One area where I've noticed improvements is in AI algorithms used to create "smart" digital zooming.....I remember how awful predictive algorithms for it were back in the early 2000s, that is no longer the case. 2x "smart" digital zooming is indistinguishable from 2x optical zoom in many respects.

The other thing I vividly remember is when conservatives were strong on conservation; not just Teddy Roosevelt, but the strong endangered species legislation often brought forth by conservative members of Congress. I believe that today the degradation of our political system is due in no small part to the corrupt influences of industry/cartel dark money in politics. You see this in healthcare too.

Indeed, Chris! I have found the same is true of cameras and telescopes.....the best equipment is the one that is used most often (and portability is important to me and I'm sure many others.)

Yes the ozone hole crisis was actually handled well under conservative leadership!

Those were the days- JFK was a far better president than any we have had since. Even though the 60s were divisive, we became united under a single purpose; many lessons to be learned from that period for today. People can still unite during a turbulent time in history.

Since this is about sustainability too, I should mention I read a bunch of articles on Bloomberg today that talk about how it's great that people are switching from dairy to plant-based milk. It's great for the dairy industry too, as milk costs a lot for them to produce and then has a limited storage life, so they've been switching to making more plant-based milk too. Switching from animal farming to more of a plant-based diet is a win/win both for the environment and for our health.