LibertyBell

This is how its going to be otherwise no one would ever come to these subforums lol

Southern Poconos near Lake Harmony. Really nice area, about 2200 ft up. Halfway between Allentown and Mt Pocono.

I see that 68-69 was 50less across the board in the city....but I'm confused about 62-63, how is it tied at JFK but not even in the top 15 at NYC? and wow 2015 is the only recent year in the top 15

ninas after ninos are our best winters, second year ninas not so much

wow helps that JFK and LGA have shorter periods of records, because NYC's record is from a different era. so this is amazing in 62-63 and 68-69 we basically went the entire winter without ever hitting 50? How is it we didn't get more snow in either of those years? and did NYC also go the entire winter without hitting 50 in those years, Don?

Don what are the longest time periods we've gone without a high of 50? Sounds like this streak was 30 days plus (more than one full month).

wow you're probably the farthest north of anyone in this subforum

wow sounds like horrible driving conditions the next morning (I assume it was over by then)?

Was this the big one in Feb 1996? I remember there being another one that dropped close to a foot, was that around the 11-12th?

Thats the thing, we never went above freezing here. I kept checking the temperatures all night, at the height of it around 2-3 am we were 30-31 and JFK stayed in the upper 20s, similar to VD 2007 I remember the beautiful crystalline nature of the trees, looking like prisms in the bright sunlight under a backdrop of the clear blue skies.

I lived in Lawrence in 1994 and from what I remember it was more than an inch of ice, so I'm trying to get a JFK amount.. It was on my railings outside my side door I remember I was shocked how thick the ice was, and there was a nice layer of sleet under that. How long did that storm last? Was it a two part storm? The high temp was around 31 so just below freezing towards the end of the storm. One of my favorite memories from that winter (the other was the unique daytime thundersnow CG event in early February.)

you know rainboy19 is laughing at you guys right lol

just one more run. is that supposed to be the pattern change storm? the luxury of having two homes is I'm going to be in the Poconos that entire week, so one way or other I'll have a lot of snow lol. I'm going there 2/11 and staying all week.

Hey Chris is there any way to see what JFK's top ice storms were and their amounts? Curious to see how 1994 compares to 1973 which gets talked about so much. I remember JFK didn't get to freezing in that storm at all. It reminds me of how we had ice in VD2007 but that wasn't a pure ice storm, it started as snow.

Oh I had family in CT I used to go there when I was little.

there was freezing drizzle that year that came off the sea breeze because the SST was below 32-- thats how cold that winter was! Lots of awesome snow too

yes it was a really nice and very pretty Saturday morning. You guys had sleet in Jan 1994? How do we find records for biggest freezing rain events at JFK lol

2 questions, Don-- 1) I realize you said there is uncertainty but can the timeframe for a pattern change be ironed down to within a 5 day period (say between February 15-20)? 2) What are the chances of a big wintry storm before the pattern changes? Could it occur in the PD timeframe or would it have to be a little before that? We are in our climo best period for historic snowstorms (starts around Feb 5th and ends around Feb 20th).

lmao probably. Here's the ironic thing. I've been a lot more west (on I-80) than I have been north. I just looked at anything north of the GWB/Yankee Stadium as the Arctic Tundra lol.

were those patterns where the AO was negative and the NAO was positive? Didn't this storm also have a slightly negative AO and a positive NAO?

wow nice, the three winters I was looking at were 1960-61, 1993-94 and 2002-03

But that did diddly for us on the south shore because at JFK and here that "big storm" last Groundhog Day had less snow than this and was a mixed precip storm, I'd rather have all snow pure snow even at the same or somewhat lesser amount (and this one was bigger than anything we had last year here.) How do you compare this to 1993-94 when NYC had over 50 inches without a neg NAO or PD2 where we didn't have a neg nao either, I believe 2002-03 and 1960-61 both averaged out with a slightly positive NAO? Was 2014-15 another positive or neutral NAO winter? What about 2013-14? Why did we have so much mixing that winter?

How does it compare to Jan 1994? I cant imagine anything bigger than that. Can you compare freezing rain amounts for both storms and duration at JFK as well as temps?

Is that a fake moustache he has on? Anyways lol We had the same amount of snow as Ray did (a little over a foot.) Only the high banding areas got 20 inches plus.

I've never been to either so I'll take your word for it. I've actually never been north of Yankee Stadium or I-80/ GWB aside from my trips to Albany when I was a newspaper reporter covering the state capital.