LibertyBell

Just in terms of flooding, one would think how wet and saturated the ground is beforehand and how high the river levels were before the event would tell us what kind of an event we need for major flooding. But for top end extreme events like this one and Floyd it probably wouldn't matter they would be devastating either way.

The last time I heard about people abandoning cars like this was Boxing Day 2010.

Difference with Floyd was that came at the tail end of a major drought and super hot summer in 1999. This is the third major event of the summer. Although the damage with Floyd was horrible too, I remember seeing water rescues for people who had to climb up to their roofs to get away from the rising waters.

Was that the one that caused the first EF3 of the summer? It ripped up a Home Depot and mall.

I think this would be the second EF3 of the summer (the first one was also in the Philly area.)

Here's what confuses me.....the differences between the old Fujita and scale and the new "enhanced" Fujita scale. And from the mets I have talked to they either don't understand my question or don't understand why it was done this way either. Here's the basic question.... Instead of making an entirely new scale, why didn't they just adjust the mph ranges of the original scale? Why have old tornadoes on an outdated scale and new tornadoes on a different scale? If the original scale was modified with the new ranges wouldn't it be much better namely have all tornadoes, new and old, on the same scale?

Have there been F4 in CT and MA? I wonder how they occurred so far north?

and second EF3 down there this summer, welcome to the new Oklahoma!

Sandy?

yeah and water going through a pipeline is a lot less dangerous than oil and gas are

also the shitty fossil fuel cartels who waste a ton of water.

Yeah it's a lot better than what the agriculture industry does now out there which is pretty shitty and reckless (drill deep down to get water and destroy the environment in the process.)

That was a certified wedge tornado.....never seen one of those up here before

I saw the word "estimate" in there lol.....vs the actual reports in Walt's thread which show those "estimates" were about half of what actually happened.

uhm thats completely wrong....I've complained about JFK measurements for years.....we consistently had between 4-6 inches here on the south shore of Nassau County and Queens (just check Walt's thread on area reports)....JFK, as usual, is bullshit

Probably a lot of people crowded in together too. They probably didn't even know this was coming.

You didn't see it on July 3rd? I see that getting referenced as the last time it was this cool.

They didn't learn from Sandy. They were making the same bust calls then and only stopped when their power went out as the storm was about to make landfall.

Too bad, I'd want to see that

This was a Harvey like situation. There are no simple answers.....you can't simply shelter in place. Staying off the roads does no good if your home isn't safe either. People like to comfort themselves with mindless cliches like "Turn around dont drown".....but what if there is no place left to go?

Theoretically it could probably be captured, then it would need to be cleaned and treated and shipped through some sort of water pipeline lol.

it's like they forgot what tropical systems can do around here

Looks like about 5-6 inches here in SW Nassau and about 6-7 inches in the Poconos.

and he's also wrong about that one lmao

uhm there was a ton of flooding around the JFK area too pal, I'm 4 miles east of there and we had 6 inches of rain.