LibertyBell

I feel the same way about using 30 year climate averages for rainfall like you do for using them for temperatures, Chris. Our average rainfall should be around 40 inches not the 48-50 inches the anomalous 30 year average states. I like to use the 1951-1980 average for rainfall as well as temperatures. Or 1961-1990.

By the way we are doing prescribed burns in Nassau County right now, this is what every county should be doing.

I'm not sure how many people like wet summers lol. Average rainfall in summer is fine, but we really do not need more than 4 inches of rain in any month.

On a different topic, I really hate the definition of *blizzard* We should have a separate warning for *ground blizzard* which does not involve heavy snow falling. And a separation definition for an *extreme blizzard* that involves at least 10 inches of snow falling in 12 hours or 20 inches of snow falling in 24 hours accompanied by high winds. And an *extreme snow warning* for that same amount of snow without the high winds.

What I found so disappointing about that storm was having waited a whole decade for the successor to February 1983, I wanted an area wide 20 inch blizzard. My thirst wasn't satisfied until January 1996. WABC7 on the day of the storm came in (as did 1010WINS radio) and said that the storm track had changed and it was now going to track over Montauk and we'd all get 20+ inches of snow, which didn't happen of course.

Do you think we had more ice in March 1993 or March 2007-- which was 5-6 inches of sleet here.

October 1991 was just wind without much precip-- you know I really hate that. The skies were mostly clear too, which was weird for such a windy storm. The longevity and extreme winds plus the rains and storm surge for multiple high tide cycles are what made December 1992 unique, plus it was in news cycles for a whole week it looked the entire city was going to drown.

Same here big storms are what make a winter great

The whole experience with 4/82 had to do with temperatures in the teens in April with blizzard conditions. 3/93 to me was just a 10-12 inch snowstorm with windy conditions that changed over.

that sounds like a tidal wave effect rather than a convective response which is top down.

it was more enjoyable than this one, of course el ninos are usually better.

last winter was much snowier here at JFK than 1972-73 was, we had a 4 inch and a 6 inch snowstorm here in the same week in February last year!

wow those must have been some dry winters! 1900-01 is beyond the pale lol But those late 50s and 60s winters were pretty dry too.

There are much rarer events we will never see again: April 1982 December 1992 Octoblizzard 2011

March monthly snowfall of 0.0 I wonder how often that has happened?

December 1992 was superior to March 1993 though. Living through December 1992, that was a much rarer more unique more powerful storm for us.

April 1982 I want to see that again, April 1996, April 2003 and April 2018 were also pretty good.

Heck no, we need to finally return to our hot and dry summers we used to have, rather than the less hot very humid summers of the last few years. And I think that's what will happen, because we are finally returning back to the cyclically drier years with westerly flow. The wet period will likely be a blip on the screen, much like the Mid November through end of December period was. We need to adjust to what should be our normal annual rainfall which is around 40 inches, not the nearly 50 inches it has been, which is normal for the Gulf coast not here.

The funny thing with these megastorms is that by the end of the storm we were up near freezing (or upper 20s at least) so I was glad we started in the low teens. January 1996 I think even mixed for a bit on the south shore, but it certainly did not affect snowfall totals at all (we were all over 20 inches and even 32 inches out by Bay Shore.)

I'm not sure why anyone would be happy with temperatures in the 40s lol. Some of these people act like it means snow, it definitely does not. Anything less than mid 50s would not be a good thing.

I wonder what kind of winds there will be there (and here too)?

looks very warm for the 12th at least.

a blizzard warning with 1-3 inches of snow, I would be poking my eyes out lol.

1953 - Snow was reported on the island of Oahu in Hawaii. (The Weather Channel) Wow, Oahu doesn't even have any tall mountains-- I wonder at what elevation this snow occurred and how much accumulation there was?

I think we are seeing more snow in January than we used to. The 80s Januarys were colder, but aside from January 1987 we did not see any KU events in January. And I don't believe there was a single January 20"+ HECS until January 1996 came along. And now we've had multiple. January 2011 (19 inches)-- I'm putting that in the list because it was so close to 20, and of course January 2016.