LibertyBell

You can ski in the Ozarks ;-)

I agree with you there, but I think both will need to be done, because there is going to be a big lag effect when burning of fossil fuels is reduced and even ended and meanwhile a great deal of damage will have happened before we see the effects of reducing and even stopping them, like the multibillion dollar disasters as we have seen becoming far too common. So I believe the two will have to be done in conjunction.

If we get the big snow after the 20th it will be a MUCH better analog.

2003-04 wasn't such a great winter up your way, Ray :-( were you below zero in January 2004? we were low single digits in both but I think the average mean of February 2015 was lower here.... even the last day of February was in the single digits here (almost made it to March.... which was also cold and snowy!) I have really good memories of the back half of 2014-15, certainly better ones than I do of 2013-14. The only winter with more prolonged snow cover I can remember was 2010-11 in which the snow was up to my windows!

and it was after that we banned the aerosols, Don? this is why there are major projects now underway to emit aerosols into the upper atmosphere beginning in 2030 to neutralize climate change, Don. All that needs to be done is to block 1% of sunlight....

That might explain the 14" total from the February 1978 blizzard lol. And even with that historic undermeasurement JFK still got over 60" in that winter!

I think the extreme cold started in October with temps in the upper 20s and only got stronger from there-- truly historic stuff, more rare than a 2 foot blizzard, that's for sure! But not as much fun....

what was going on to have such extremely cold winters back to back back then Don? I know they were both el ninos but you NEVER see this kind of cold in an el nino, not like 76-77 and 77-78

also the only winter that averaged below 30.0 since 1933-34, crazy stuff!

no we're talking about the period from the mid 80s to the early 90s

do you know 6+ inch snowfalls were so rare back then I heard there was talk of lowering winter storm warnings to 4" snow and school closings to 4" of snow too? That might happen one day....

it's our rarest type of snowfall, though I'd rather say it's 4-6 not 4-8, 6+ snowfalls were very rare and very spotty late 80s, early 90s and again late 90s.

That's probably the rarest type of winter and will probably never happen again (at least not in our lifetimes.) The top winters with snow cover at JFK.... 1960-61, 1977-78, 1993-94, 1995-96, 2002-03, 2010-11.... in chronological order? I'm not sure if I left any out.

It basically means it's too far SE even when it isn't compared to the other models....

Yes, but the actual temperatures themselves were not colder in the South? Except near the ocean where it's always warmer anyway.

Yes the sun is trying to come out more forcefully now.

cold and very snowy which was new and different lol I put January 2004 and February 2015 in the same category that way.

warmer weather probably starting somewhere around the 29th hopefully warm and sunny, as warm and rainy is meaningless 50s and sunny would be absolutely PERFECT

The sun is finally trying to poke through the clouds, but it's a very dim effort indeed...... too little too late =\

Looks like the 19th event is becoming more likely than the 22nd event?

Thanks Chris, do you have a similar list for JFK? Wild how high up 1976-77 is on this list and we only had about 25" of snow that winter?

yes it was supposed to be completely clear here today

wild how did 2013-14 have more snow on the ground than either 2014-15 or 2010-11 that seems impossible all I remember about 2013-14 is a ton of snow to rain events and also warm ups that melted the snow very quickly. We must have had a different winter on the south shore. 2014-15 and 2010-11 were both much much better than 2013-14 here. Also how many such days did 1995-96, 2002-03 and 2009-10 have, Chris?

I'm not sure if we're playing model roulette or wave roulette or both lol.

last two springs have been dry too.