WestMichigan

I have had a trace on a couple of occasions, but unless it fell and night and melted before I could see it in the morning there hasn't been anything measurable. Look at the snow maps, there is a donut hole around this part of the state.

I'll take that since I am one of the few remaining people in this sub to have not had a measurable snowfall yet this season.

For those of you fixated on only one aspect of this pandemic - the raw numbers, this health crisis is so often overlooked. http:// https://apnews.com/article/anxiety-mental-health-boston-coronavirus-pandemic-massachusetts-004adb5ee0ef17ff4b5e2e294e36ff3d

Is the GFS trying to model a clipper at the end of the run? That would be a nice change if that really happens.

Bare ground by evening?

Guess I was referring to places west of you. For example in my area snowfall stats. GRR SINCE JUL 1 0.4 7.3 -6.9 6.8 MKG SINCE JUL 1 1.2 6.2 -5.0 10.9 Precip stats are also on the drier side during this time period.

I thought La Nina years were supposed to be active. This snoozefest needs to go.

Why not 60% or 75%? Pure speculation at best. Give some reasoning please.

If this were true why are so many countries struggling then?

This is 5 days or so in a row with declining numbers in Michigan. Not sure if it is a trend or a blip.

11-12” in Noble County. Definitely not happening. It takes a pretty rare storm to produce like that in SE Ohio.

Having spend the first 39 years of my life in Ohio, I couldn't decide which reaction to use. I feel your pain. It makes those times it actually does pan out even more special. You have to love that little retrograde action going on later in the run also.

Sure seems pretty clueless with what to do with that low.

Not to mention the rise in suicides - "We’ve already seen a steady rise in deaths by suicide over the past two decades and a new report by The Well Being Trust released last month found that 75,000 additional people could die from what they called “deaths of despair,” (which include suicide and substance use) because of Covid-19." https://www.psycom.net/covid-19-suicide-rates

At the risk of being a little political and definitely putting on the body armor for the flames coming my way. Below are a couple of comments from various articles I read earlier today. Ben Franklin stated, “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Just because something is a good idea does NOT mean that the government has the right or authority to ORDER it. Our system of government is based on the presumption that adult citizens have the right to make their own decisions, for good or ill. Freedom includes the freedom to act foolishly.

In the Grand Rapids area they are already forecasting longer turnaround times and only testing symptomatic people in some locations.

This is the point that should be more prominent. Masks help, but they are not 100% effective. So many people think wear a mask and you are safe. Don't wear one and you are dead when in reality what really happens is somewhere in between.

Do we need to drag politics into this topic also?

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/10/20/925441975/studies-point-to-big-drop-in-covid-19-death-rates Not perfect, but definitely an improvement.

dta1984 and Hoosier said more or less the same thing. dta1974 gets two weenie tags, the same two people like Hoosier's post.

MDHHS issued basically the same thing as Gov. Whitmer had in place. Nothing has changed other than where the source of the mandate is coming from. There are even penalties associated with the MDHHS order. The governor and legislature are even working together now to pass laws. I know that you don't like that but that is the way it is supposed to work.

ALEK - why is anyone getting this laugh worthy?

But even the places that didn’t fully open up are seeing increases also. Even the places with full on mask requirements are seeing upticks a la Europe. This isn’t going away soon as much as we all wish it would.

Do you guys want Trump dead? I don't wish anyone to die from this but all I see here is the writing is on the wall, RIP, etc.... Come on guys show some respect and a little decent humanity here.