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Sounds more as if the testing sites are transitioning from a local/community level to more so a State level. But what that means in the way of funding I am not sure. So it could very well be a case where the funding is ceasing to go directly to these smaller scale operations and actually going elsewhere to provide for the State Wide management. A spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services tells NPR, “Many of the Community-Based Testing Sites (CBTS) are not closing, but rather transitioning to state-managed sites on or about April 10.” The agency and a spokesperson for FEMA say the CBTS program was intended as a stop-gap to bring testing to critical locations, especially for health care facility workers and first responders. “The transition will ensure each state has the flexibility and autonomy to manage and operate testing sites within the needs of their specific community and to prioritize resources where they are needed the most,” the HHS spokesperson said.

I guess I can see the hesitancy by some to not flat out close schools for the rest of the year. But I myself thought it was pretty obvious that this would have to be done. Now I am referring to our particular region. Really don't know if you could apply that to other portions of our country in the far less populace states (such as upper plains).

First I had heard that but am not surprised. This is one of the reasons I brought forward that the WHO test, that some were going on about, as not being a viable solution .Pretty much shows the issues we would have dealt with when we only have a few facilities that can do the lab testing. The tests get backed up quickly when these labs have to cultivate the virus long enough to get an accurate reading (2 days I believe?). They get backed up so quickly that they become for the most part useless as the virus quickly out races the speed that we can get the results back. Right now they have several tests that will give results within a manner of hours, if not minutes, and it is just a matter of confirming the accuracy and then getting them mass produced. I also have to wonder if the lack of getting test results back is also handicapping the model on Infection rates?

Wuhan style lock-down? To the best of my knowledge they are only factoring in Social Distancing. That said, I have and continue to question their 3% infection rate after this wave. Just doesn't make sense with everything I have seen. Think that is under done, possibly by a good bit. And that could have significant impacts to any second wave as it would take possible hosts, especially in the cities where they will see much higher rates then the national avg., out of the equation.

Not that you can dismiss the possibility but your symptoms pretty much describe any flu. It was probably nothing more then one of the strains that pop up periodically each year. Same with me when I came back from my casino trip up in Wilkes-barre. Developed a cold a day or two after coming back that lingered for weeks. Cough, congestion etc... Felt somewhat sick but could work through it. Kept wondering if it could be covid considering that NY and NJ are only a couple of hours away travel time. But when I think through it I think the odds were slim.

Now this article is one of the reasons I had issues with Trumps ban on just China and their international travelers. Felt strongly that he should have banned at the same time, if not all international flights, then at least flights from Europe. It was quite obvious to me at that point the virus had already spread beyond China into other countries especially Europe. https://www.foxnews.com/science/new-york-area-coronavirus-outbreak-originated-primarily-in-europe-not-china-report

I have seen far too many article of this nature. And to think, these people live among us. Kind of puts a chill down your spine when you really think about it. https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-woman-arrested-for-allegedly-licking-nearly-2000-in-grocery-store-items

Was looking over this report by ABC News trying to decide if there could possibly be any validity to it and to the urgency implied. At this point call me highly skeptical especially when it comes to the urgency if we are going by the CCP's timeline. Timeline of events in Wuhan as we know it just does not support this (First confirmed case by the CCP was Dec 10 at Wuhan market). This would basically imply that our intelligence services have precognitive abilities that stretch weeks in advance. Any possible report would have more then likely come a couple of weeks later (again going by the timeline) and would probably not have conveyed the urgency that the article suggests. Now information that was coming out of China during this period of time was filtered through CCP so let's just be polite and call it very questionable. Other sources of information coming from outside of CCP control have to be questioned as well. So in other words, though I highly question the article below, which has since been denied by the NCMI, I would not completely rule it out as we can not be absolutely sure of the facts we think we might know. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273 BUT....... I did mention awhile ago that I thought there was the possibility that we saw an earlier flareup then what we are currently led to believe per the CCP. Sometime in November either in Wuhan or somewhere else. One that the Chinese may have thought they snuffed out only to have flare back up. Have read bits and pieces over the last couple of weeks of confirmed cases starting in Mid November that would imply this earlier flareup. Researching into the above article this morning I came across this. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074991/coronavirus-chinas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back Here are two relevant comments. According to the government data seen by the Post, a 55 year-old from Hubei province could have been the first person to have contracted Covid-19 on November 17. From that date onwards, one to five new cases were reported each day. By December 15, the total number of infections stood at 27 – the first double-digit daily rise was reported on December 17 – and by December 20, the total number of confirmed cases had reached 60. Now if the above information is correct this would put a whole new light on the ABC News article above. One that would fit more into the articles narrative. One I could believe though I still might question the urgency just a little bit because I think any report would have been more of an FYI at that time.

Actually just ordered from Aldi's yesterday. Ended up with a Sat. time slot as that was the soonest they had. Which is fine because the only thing we will run out of before then is Milk. Bought plenty of cheese as well as some canned milk products so we really could have foregone milk if we had had to. Love sardines but let's just say my wife is not a big fan. If that would have been one of my go to for proteins she would have been on-line filling out one of those DIY divorce papers lickity split. Actually like my marriage so I did the prudent thing. One of my favorites was Velveeta grilled cheese sandwiches. Talk about messy. And for what ever reason it was always served with Campbell's tomato soup. It was one of out meats in our meat group (Pork, Ground Beef, Chicken, Steak-ums). Never knew there was such a thing as Steak until I got older.

Have heard arguments on both sides about the possibilities of a second wave. Both have merits. I am still pretty much leaving my thinking on that open though at this time I might lean towards the 2'nd wave scenario a little. I do think if we do see one it's impact will much more muted then this initial wave for various reasons. As far as a full reopening from the get go I think that is far from likely. Probably see an incremental ramp up within different industries as well as in the different States and regions. I strongly believe that the decisions in this regard need to be handled by the State and local leaders who have an understanding of their regions needs and should not be a blanket opening by the Fed with a one size fits all approach.

I know from personal experience that it cleans everything on its trip from the mouth down to the nether regions. Or maybe a better description is that it kills everything?

Still have far to go with this virus so who knows what surprises are in store, but current modeling as well as ground truth is painting a much rosier picture then what was expected just a week ago let alone the possibilities we were facing initially of massive deaths. Just goes to show that the reality is almost always somewhere in the middle.

Not that I have had the hardest life compared to some but it has had its share of difficulties. Always have found even at the worst of times that humor can lift your spirit and help pull you through. Humor.... And lots of booze. Can't forget the booze.

Is there anyone even interested in my postings here? If not I will just let this thread die a lonely death. I have better things to do then spend a couple of hours writing them up. Like playing online slots.

It's a little troubling hearing news about the possible resurgence of the virus in those that have supposedly recovered. We have heard sporadic reports here and there of this possibility but now S Korea has come out with a report of 51 cases of this in the Daegu and surrounding areas. Talking up to a 10% relapse rate. More study will have to be done but I would think governments are rethinking their ideas on how long those infected should be quarantined.

And all I have here in Hanover is rain, moderate but nothing to speak of, and an occasional clap of thunder. Really no wind to speak of though I might have heard a hail strike or two against the window for about 5 seconds. Boringggg..

Your good. Everyone knows that Flaming Hot Cheetos is a known preventative of the Cornavirus. This is fact.

Excerpt from an interview done with CDC Director Robert Redfield on 1030 KVOI radio. I had to laugh a little because it reminded me of many a winter on these boards where the snowiest, most extreme model/model runs for a storm were the ones that were hyped by the news and Social Media. And yet the reality was always something much less. HOST: We were talking about some of the models, whether it’s from the imperial college guy in England or the University of Washington. Thank god some of these numbers are falling short of some of these catastrophic numbers. Tell me about the dynamic of the modeling and how it helps and influences decision making and then, when the reality comes in, how does the decision making transform? DR. ROBERT REDFIELD: I think it’s really important. First, models are only as good as their assumptions. Obviously, there was a lot unknown about this virus. The ability to actively make a lot of assumptions was much wider than if this was an Influenza B outbreak. Second thing, I will say from a public health perspective, to me, the real value of models is to have a model and then try to understand — if I invest resources here, what does that do to the model? If I invest in intervention strategies here, what does that do to the model? It’s a way of beta testing how you’re going to respond and what it does to the different models. And models should never be used to assume that we have a number. You saw those numbers are quite staggering. You’ve got 200,000 to 2 million Americans are losing their lives before the fall. That’s a pretty staggering number. HOST: Are throwing those kind of numbers out actually helpful because what they do is scare the hell out of everyone to social distance? Is that the purpose? DR. REDFIELD: I think different people may look at it in different ways in terms of transparency. CDC had models early on. We didn’t really publicize the models. We used them internally to understand deviation strategies. I think part of the importance of getting the American public’s attention that these models did, we really need the American public to be fully engaged now with great rigor and vigilance on the social distancing. As you pointed out, those models that were done, they assume only about 50 percent of the American public would pay attention to the recommendations. In fact, what we’re seeing is a large majority of the American public are taking the social distancing recommendations to heart. And I think that’s the direct consequence of why you’re seeing the numbers are going to be much, much, much lower than would have been predicted by the models.

Now that is thinking somewhat out of the box. Would be nice if they can get this to work as it would help to get people back to a sense of somewhat normalcy.

Police Squad from 1982. Thought it rang a bell.

We are probably going to spikes and dips for the near future so we will really need to get a few days under our belts to get an idea of where we stand. That said that is some promising news. Let's hope it holds. You never told me what that clip was from. I laughed my butt off seeing that.

I just don't see the sense in all this hate and desire that people pick sides. Been a very stressful last 10 years or so for me with the divisions we are now seeing in this country. After all I am a very easy going guy that accepts everyone for who they are and not their possible physical, religious, ideological, political, etc... differences. Life is hard enough without bringing all this crap into the equation. Now mind you, when I am feeling a little peckish I will jump onto a political board and join in though. And yeah, I can troll with the best of them.

Oh look, the bitter old sh*thead decides to chirp in. Just fooling with you. Hope you have had a good morning so far.

Just checking, talking about the article I posted? That's a great clip. What show is that from?

Actually, I have stocked up sufficiently with non-perishable foods where we can ride this out for up to 2 months as well as stocking up and freezing a couple weeks worth of fresh meat. But I did leave the option open for going to the grocery story depending on what we were seeing. Still very hesitant about going to the store but I am probably going to make a compromise later this week of ordering online and having the groceries (fresh foods) delivered. I have a system in place where I was quarantining items bought before our lock-down. Basically everything gets put into the garage where I give it 72 hours before I bring it into the house. Have a full sized fridge there so I could put fresh in. I am hearing some good things about Aldi's and their deliveries so I will probably place an order later this week. https://www.instacart.com/aldi After all there is only so much canned meat (spam, tuna, chicken, Vienna sausages, etc...) one wants to exist on.