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1 hour ago, wxmanmitch said:

And it has begun. Some low level easterly flow upslope snow already falling out ahead of the synoptic stuff that has yet to arrive from the southwest. Quite breezy. 29° F.

Expecting a solid 20"+ dump out of this, maybe 25"+. 

Actually getting some good flakes on that low lvl easterly flow here at my spot on the western slopes. Coating down, but still at 33.1F.

Pretty cool graphics from BTV. Haven't seen this before.

3 minutes ago, MRVexpat said:

Having Stratton in the 30-36" shading seems....optimistic

Ha, I just edited my post as i just noticed that.  Agree

After being here almost 10 years, I have noticed ALY can get pretty aggressive in SVT when posting those Prob Snow Maps.

ALY bumped a bit across the board looks like..even a little weenie 30-36" spot over Stratton..lol

27 minutes ago, greenmtnwx said:

Yes it does. Up off Todd Hill and Benson Fuller. 

Actually up off west ridge rd.   Like a whole street of houses above 2500' . Maybe a bunch got grandfathered in.

1 minute ago, mreaves said:

There was also one that was over 2500’. The environmental court ordered it torn dow because it violated the State’s rule on building at elevation. Not sure if that actuall got torn down or if it’s still in litigation. 

I remember talking about that in some thread last year, curious what the outcome was.

8 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

It’s pretty close with 4” at DDH right near the NY/VT border, with the full hole a few miles west of there. There’s actually sleet in that model for DDH on the downslope.

Little dot of nothing over Hoosick Falls NY,one of the sneakiest worst snow holes in the NE.

DDH is at least at 800ft even with the downsloping, so still maybe still get some before the winds turn back N/NW more favorably.

7 hours ago, dmcginvt said:

How highly anomalous is this.  I have lived in Lamoillle County or Washington County since 87.  I dont recall us being this bare in a long time.  But i also feel like it has happened before.  Anyone got records to share?   Worst december ever records?

Dec 2015. Wall to wall furnace with almost zero snow.  

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Christmas 2020 Grinch was about as bad as they come. Still deep pack 12/24 only to get just slaughtered as Santa came down the chimney. Just an awful disaster. 

Absolute all timer 

22 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah looks like we ended up just over 2” in town today.

It is brutal wind/cold combo for November though.  Wind chills -25F on Mansfield now and -47F on Mount Washington.

Just for posterity, the snow showers/squalls this morning were intense with under 1/4sm vis.  Rare for an ASOS.

METAR KMVL 201330Z AUTO 00000KT M1/4SM +SN FZFG VV007 M03/M05 A2981

METAR KMVL 201325Z AUTO 00000KT M1/4SM +SN FZFG VV006 M03/M05 A2981

What a week to be honest for mid-November.

Def a pretty deep winter feel for sure this week, even for some valley locations. Very minimal melting. Although it's a pretty sharp cutoff down here where snowcover is gone.

Couple more scraps this afternoon/evening, little under 2" additional. Nasty out there right now though, man.

Even picked up almost 3 inches here which is pretty solid for a mostly lake streamer event. 

Getting some nice action off Ontario today. Streamer/upslope combo scraps...

2 hours ago, MRVexpat said:

Is Wunderground misfiring for anyone else? I seem to be able to access the base view but can't select different resolutions or other reflectivities. 

I haven't been able to use that radar in a long while...not sure what happened to it.

Unless there is a trick to it Im missing.

1 hour ago, bwt3650 said:

Entertainment purposes only…but i’d hit that.


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As always...start at 4' and adjust up as needed.

1 hour ago, mreaves said:

Whoops, too late! JSpin has already recorded .40

If you don't get that documented within 5 minutes of precip stopping, you are already too late!

1 hour ago, WxWatcher007 said:

When I do my final mow, probably this week, do I cut to the lowest setting and mulch the clippings/remaining leaves rather than bag? I’ve made so much progress rebuilding the lawn I don’t want to screw it up. 

Mulching leaves is some of the best organic material you can add to your lawn, and its free. Just make sure they are relatively small pieces so they can break down without actually smothering it.

I know they are very rare, but she is lucky as might have been killed if the boyfriend doesn't intervene.

I think only 1 documented black bear death in VT history?

https://www.reformer.com/local-news/its-not-their-fault-winhall-woman-recovering-from-bear-attack/article_26d67128-5bb5-11ed-aff2-e3106b29a52e.html

10 hours ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Lawn sweeper:

Nice, how many passes can you do before you have to dump it?

10 hours ago, SJonesWX said:

I love when you get done cleaning up and the lawn looks all green and awesome. then you look out the window an hour later and there are leaves all over the place again. can't I just get 1 day of enjoyment looking at the clean lawn?

The worst. I just decided to delay any leaf cleanup this year until like 70% are down.  I was going to do a cleanup last weekend and glad I didn't, it became S+ leaf drop with .25 mile VIS later that day. Would have driven me mad. 

6 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

The bolded is the real crux of the community issue.  The home inventory that was removed from that $100-$200k annual family/couple income class (even spouse couples making $250k around here) in many areas has definitely upped the ante.  The teachers, police, city hall employees, middle management to director levels of hospitality/service industry, business owners, etc are all out on buying stuff around here now it seems.

I think about what Phin’s place went for, the land, size, view, etc.  That might get you a fixer upper on small land around here now.  Or maybe just a 2-3 bedroom condo/townhome?  So jealous of that price to quality of property ratio, ha.

Even if you find something you can afford, it’s bought cash sight unseen overnight.  Forget the time to make sure financing is in line.  That’s one of the biggest hurdles for most of the folks who could’ve worked towards those $250-$750k level homes…competing with all cash offers, no inspections, etc on real short notice and they are all now $750k+.

 

Sums it really, the 100k-200k income earners just sitting tight. I will say almost everyone of our friends or kids friends parents already owned pre-Covid, even those with alot of equity in their home, it doesn't make sense because as it would just be a lateral move with a higher interest rate even with a massive down-payment.

The 1 million+ housing market is interesting, those rarely sold pre covid, those just sat forever and ever. Now, going like hotcakes..lol. 

1 hour ago, mreaves said:

I agree, there are numerous factors that come into play.  We also need to remember that many of the employees that work at the resorts and other tourism oriented businesses would also be using, if not STRs then MTRs, Medium Term Rentals, for the entire season so some of the shift is there.  It's hard to incentivize a focus on non-luxury housing though.  Developers will build where they can make the most profit and that's where the market is.  It's also harder to build in our areas.  Between regulations, which can be changed, physical challenges with terrain and the simple fact that when people think of moving to NNE, most aren't thinking of living in an apartment block.  Most people want to live in a house in the country.    

There was a glut of housing pre-covid in this area where houses had literally been sitting on the market for years in some cases.  It's amazing how picky we were able to be when shopping around for housing, listing agents would send multiple follow up emails and phone calls for a house we saw that we had really had no interest in buying, trying everything they could to make it seem appealing.  Now its get us your best and final 3 days after it's listed. 

Many service industry, blue collar, etc were still priced out even back pre 2020. (At least in Manchester/Dorset,etc) There were not a ton of long term rentals, but definitely some, those have seemed to vanish with owners wanting to cash out on the market. Most service industry from here live over the border in ENY--Granville, Greenwich, Hoosick Falls when there are rentals and much cheaper housing. 

The 250k-500k homes pre covid are the real killer.  Those were still in reach for many locals around here--Teachers, law enforcement, steady 2 income family, small business owner, Orvis workforce, etc.  Those are now 550k-1Mil at 7% with about half going to CASH buyers.  Some of the places where new students have come from in my kids classes--Seattle, Boston, NYC, NJ, DC, Florida, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, CT.  They had to add a third class in my daughters 5th grade.  The family from Seattle literally just did a Google search and moved here, never had been to VT before. They did a zoom tour of house and bought it no inspection, obviously sight unseen(well in person at least), drove cross country and realized the house had no basement when they went inside and tried to find the door to it.  When you are going against 10 offers, you might miss some stuff you would think is standard.(I'm sure there are plenty of remote buying stories like that)   Hard to compete in a small town with limited inventory when the buyer pool is national. 

There has definitely been a ground swell to get affordable housing options has been mentioned by you and Alex and others.  Zoning, Height restrictions, red tape stuff always seems to pop up thought before even getting off the ground. 

1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

What happened the poster Sugarloaf? Dude always loved his foliage 

I was thinking that. He was foliage king, drove all over NE every year it seemd.

No frost or freeze yet here. Clouds or wind have thrown a wrench in any radiating night. 

Definitely past peak down in Mitch's hood. Woodford, Searsburg, Wilmington etc had almost no vibrant reds or oranges between 1400-2k. 

Interestingly it looks much better up here in the same elevation range in the Magic, Stratton, Bromley area.