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What a crushing up there..congrats guys.   

Mini Firehouse into Underhill right now

Just now, powderfreak said:

Haha.

The classic evening photos walking to my car at the base of Mansfield.

Tonight was on a whole other level.  Essentially a White Hurricane at this point.  All day long.  Gusts of 50-60mph even in the base area with snowfall averaging close to 1"/hr.  Another 8-10" seemed to fall during the daylight hours.

Truly high-end winter storm stuff.

Jesus--impressive stuff.  Looks like a plains blizzard.

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

We cool.

I know Ray cant wait for the next Stowe update

1 hour ago, mreaves said:

It doesn't seem like it wants to stop snowing here.  

*I'm only posting this in the sparsely viewed NNE thread so that I don't further antagonize the on edge SNE weenies.

 That radar up in NVT has been crushing West slopes, JSpin, probably Stowe, etc, etc. Moisture feed/upslope wont die down. Going to be some BIG mtn totals I would think

Representing SNE:

MASSACHUSETTS

...Berkshire County...
   Savoy                 10.5   609 PM  1/09  WeatherNet6

11 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Those ones that are tagged to be submitted by the public must be using a yard stick with the first 6" cutoff though........................

Lol.  Right, those "public" reports can be suspect at best sometimes.
 

Some decent totals there.  Winter of In and Up continues..for now.

7" here over past few days, but 12"+ in the higher spots nearby looks like. Woodford 17", Landgrove VT 12". Mitch probably close to 12" I would think.

Shocker---Woodford comes in over a foot with 13" so far.

Just now, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

What an incredibly elevation dependent winter so far. Still sitting on that 6-12” of ice from November at 1400’ on the east side. Meanwhile there has been almost nothing down in the valley. 

Banding so far in this event seems focused just to the south towards the Taconics and Berkshires. I have noticed this occur in the past. Things should fill in later.

Yep, flow is definitely blocked hence the radar look of the best returns struggling to make it over the taconics and into the valley here and over to the greens and east slope towns. Yes, been a number of events this year with a pretty blocked flow. That NOV 2016 uplsope event was pretty blocked if I recall.

Flow becomes less blocked moving forward, but not sure how much moisture will be left down here, NVT is a different story.

Looks pretty elevation dependent again(guess not that surprising with this system), doesn't look like a whole lot in the middle of Manchester at 715ft.

Definitely more "sticky" at my place higher around 1100ft.  Had my wife measure and she said 4" new a couple hours ago. 

2-3"  inches here round one overnight. Actually came down pretty decent at times looking at my cam.  See how round 2 unfolds

ALY with 2 separate references to "snow piling up" regarding the follow up system. 
Seems to be a tricky forecast, could be decent,especially for higher elevations

Tue night into Wednesday...
A second system will be riding on the
heels of the first one with an evolving mid and upper level
trough over the Great Lakes Region into the Northeast

Locations north and east of the
Capital Region, especially across southern VT, and the
Adirondacks may pile up the snow and may need Winter Head lines
with possibly a Winter Storm Watch. For now, we have 1-3" of
snow in the lower elevations. Lows Tue night will generally be
in the mid 20s to mid 30s.

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The trowal to the system combined with westerly upslope could
pile up the snow across the northern most zones again with
western Adirondacks and southern Greens benefiting from the
orographic enhancement. Additional significant accumulations of
snow are possible.

Little under an inch with some pretty intense graupel/snow mix earlier. 

Got my backyard cam setup finally so I dont have to rely on my wife's "best guess" when I'm out of town.

1 hour ago, wxmanmitch said:

33° F and rain at 2,230' elevation from a coastal in early January. Has this ever happened before? Maybe someone can go check the scrolls...

Sure, it's rained plenty of times here in January from cutters, but it's *HOW* we're getting this rain that's disturbing. What a disaster!!!

Completely dumbfounded...  

Solid melt mitch 

Pretty crazy, usually a coastal transversing under LI is a decent track, but not today..

Only had about 4" in DEC here. Still along ways to go for winter weather..especially for your location

48 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Any thoughts on tomorrow’s event up high? I’m hoping to stay frozen above 2k. Mid level issues in southern Vermont?

I dont know, look to be on the fringe of any meaningful QPF, and even then mid levels seem to warm--850s look pretty toasty. 

3 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Real nice southern Vermont band is probably producing good rates in its core. Going to be a very localized event with not much north and south.

1.9" here. Nearest cocorahs to me also had 2.0" at 1800ft east of the spine..so not really elevation or east slope dependent it seems.    Woodford only had 2.5".   The good stuff was further north and east it seems as per PFs 3am radar gif....lol

Haven't checked any local ski areas--but wouldn't think any place had much more than 3-4"

1 hour ago, tamarack said:

Last time I watched the cocorahs snow-measure product, its instructions were to record the storm at its max depth, and other info says that a snow-melt-snow sequence within an obs day should have the sum of both peaks reported.  Thus one could easily report a lot more snowfall than the depth OG.

Kind of related--I know there has been a lot of past discussion about 6 hour board clears vs once a day or only at the end of the storm.  Just a FYI, that NWS ALY had a cocorahs event a few months back and I specifically asked the METS about that, they said they want 6 hour clears for longer events---if your able to of course.  So that's the message they had to all Cocorahs members in the ALY zones.

8 hours ago, wxmanmitch said:

You have more than I have. I've got half that at most. What's the elevation where you're at? Deepest packs right now are in shady, river ravines in the 1,500-2,000' range on the east slope. Above 2K is more susceptible to mixing and torching in the recent cutters. I was in the 40s on Friday, but some locales to my east never got much above freezing.

I'm not expecting much snow here tomorrow evening at all, if any. BL temperatures are pretty much never an issue in these SWFE setups at the onset, it's always the stinking midlevels, so it'll probably be pellets and freezing rain for a while before things slowly change to rain after midnight.

 

Think he said he is in the 1000-1100ft range down the east slope near Jamaica.

Yep, they events are awful for SVT.  The west slopes stand no chance where I am, just immediate torch with no CAD abilities. The east slopes can hold and higher elevations too, but like you said mid levels just torch so quickly.

9 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Just got up to Vermont earlier and couldn’t believe the amount of snow left at my house. 12” of absolute glacier. You can ice skate on this stuff. 

Not expecting much frozen here in southern Vermont. Maybe an inch before sleet and then rain. 

Yep, that low elevation of 1100ft(relatively speaking) definitely helped last event.  You probably rotted at like 33-35F for most of the event

What a torch on the western slopes of the Greens last night. Pretty much bare ground up to almost 2k. East side still solid snow cover though. 

55 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

Whoops, sorry about that, it was a typo (note the 28.436.1 number) - I typed in the 36.1 F (the 1:00 PM temperature here) but somehow didn't erase the 28.4 F from earlier this morning, and it got blended into a single entry.

Oh, lol--got it.  I thought the 28.436.1 looked a little odd.

38F here now. Had a little SN/IP to start and mostly a cold 33-38F rain.  See Bennington just to my SW is roasting up in the mid 50s

3 minutes ago, J.Spin said:

Event totals: 0.5” Snow/0.35” L.E.

 

Details from the 1:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.1 inches

New Liquid: 0.06 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 1.7

Snow Density: 60.0% H2O

Temperature: 28.436.1 F

Sky:  Cloudy

Snow at the stake: 7.5 inches

You might have the have the coldest temp in all of VT right now with that 28F. Most everyone seems to be above freezing with some outlying 31-32F pockets it looks like. Cold air just trapped in your little magical hollow I guess.

17 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

30.9F. plow guy came through. I know the guys gotta make a living, but it's expensive to us knowing it'll melt by dinner time.

Don't you have a threshold for him to come plow? I don't have my guy come unless its 4"+

Now, if he's coming to sand/salt  because of the IP/ZR, then that's different I guess.

As per usual in these setups, extreme SE winds on the western slopes of greens. Wife reported its been pretty insane overnight and kids have been up since 4-5am because the roaring/intensity.  

Gusting to 50mph at home while ALB is calm---good for flight coming in if it stays that way.

Not looking good for my ATL to CLT to ALB flight tomorrow....ughh.