The Ole Bucket

Mayo belongs in the fridge, not the freezer!

FWIW, and I'm not sure it's worth a ton, Rayno is still pretty convinced about an STL to DET storm track. True enough that we've got a lot of competing tracks at the moment and the GFS has swung wildly so going with your gut and a kind of compromise between the Euro and American models makes some sense.

BTW this is just using the 10:1 ratios. I won’t even peek at Kuchera, since that’s fantasyland surely.

7” of snow just south of St Louis followed by lows on Christmas Eve morning in the negative single digits and single digit temps at Midnight Mass with 2-day old snowpack?!? I won’t tempt the Almighty or Santa or anyone else by asking for anything more than that.

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Let me just say that people cliff jumping over getting 33 and rain is part of the fun. And then when the rare overperformer happens, everyone is beyond thrilled and backslapping. I had more than my fair share of total climo screw jobs when I lived in Charlottesville. The thread has to be so fine to get through the needle there, but when it happened, it was GLORIOUS. Looks like OH is gonna get bombed unless the track goes haywire here. And while I doubt the STL region gets 8” like the some modeling says right now, I will be more than overjoyed to simply get a few inches and have a White Christmas and serious cold for the first time since I was a kid and lived in MN and WI!

Watching the Mid Atlantic sub cheer on the GFS while we and the plains sub are pulling for King Euro is pure tracking entertainment.

If it's any consolation, the west track results in a pretty good paste job for my backyard

Watching this sub do PBP for an 18z run of the GFS a week out from the storm gives me a great appreciation for what y'all have going on here. Not that my newfound comrades are bad.. but it's so much quieter in those two subs even when we have something to track!

CMC has rain changing over to snow. Low forms in central IL, sweeps up to Lake Superior, stalls and bombs out to 977.

Well that run delivers a White Christmas for like 3/4 of this subforum... and measurable snow on Christmas Eve for central MS and AL. Now we just need to amp it up. My former comrades in the Mid-Atlantic sub are going wild

Half the subs on this forum are gonna go wild after watching the 12z run.

Accuweather with its usual very precise forecasting here.

Storm is at least still there. Wild divergences this far out are to be expected. "Glad to be in the game" as they say in the Mid-Atlantic sub.

Lock this total snow depth up and throw away the key for 9AM CT on Christmas morning.

Okay you guys be reasonable and realistic and more or less ignore the precip on the models. Meanwhile I'm going to lock up this 12z GFS run that gives me 3-4" of snow IMBY on Dec. 23 and single-digit lows on Christmas Eve as absolute Gospel.

For legal purposes, that was mostly a joke. The Mid-Atlantic forum is constantly making jokes about sun angle eating up their snowcover.

Most of the snow was scorched by sun angle yesterday. A few pockets still out there I guess. NWS gives us a shot at 1-2” tonight but temps later today don’t look great for accumulation IMO. If only it was here *now* since we are struggling to get to 20 at the moment! Also, just laughing at this week’s temp forecast. Not supposed to exceed the freezing mark Friday. And this seems just miserable for most folks this time of year.. Wednesday Mostly sunny, with a high near 39. West wind 7 to 14 mph, with gusts as high as 22 mph.

NWS has splashed a few WWAs for this storm. I have my doubts about this storms performance. Still, it’s 19F right now IMBY here in Ste Gen. Real January weather before Thanksgiving. Can’t ask for much more than that.

To your point, if this stretch actually is the pattern for winter, it’s gonna be wild everywhere. Fingers crossed. Right now at 5am CT it’s 21F here in southeast Missouri. The next forecasted high at 50F or above is… Nov. 23. It never got above freezing yesterday! Hearty people here, many farmers, so no one complained, local festival went on as planned.. but they were all shocked too. Hasn’t been an early snow like this in 15 years. And we might get another inch or two tomorrow night!

Yeah I was expecting a dusting to a covering. Woke up to 3-4 inches. Farmington MO got 6.

NWS STL laughing at taking that L folks in our area are waking up to a winter wonderland this morning, with as much as 6" of snow on the ground. We're just as surprised as many of you are, so we wanted to let you know what happened. Boiling it down: 1) the snow was further north than expected, 2) the snow was much more intense than expected, 3) the warm ground was not enough to overcome the heavy snowfall rates.

NWS STL has a sense of humor. Some folks in our area are waking up to a winter wonderland this morning, with as much as 6" of snow on the ground. We're just as surprised as many of you are, so we wanted to let you know what happened. Boiling it down: 1) the snow was further north than expected, 2) the snow was much more intense than expected, 3) the warm ground was not enough to overcome the heavy snowfall rates.

And quick greetings again from the western bank of the Mississippi (literally.. we live a mile from a levee) where the forecast definitely undershot the potential of the disturbance swinging through the middle of the country and ushering in actual fall and a winter preview. The front should be headed your way later today. Probably a good 2-3” out there.

Definite overperformer. Flurries still going here after about 1.5 inches. EDIT: I am bad at eyeballing in this new environment! Measured almost 3 on the sidewalk just now. Got a short burst of light-to-mod to greet the kiddos this AM. Back to flurries now (6:15)