J Paul Gordon

Still holding on to my "forecast": Dec 3-5 AN; Jan 1-3 AN; Feb 5+AN; March 0-2 BN with near-normal snowfall despite the temps. The last is really a crap shoot under any circumstances. A couple of good storms in a cold spell in January & March will do it for many. Least certain about the February torch. My Farmers Almanac approach is based on bad memories from the 70's and 80's plus AGT (Anthropogenic Torching)

Down to 35 here and radar looks like the snow is literally just a couple miles to my NW. Who knows, maybe the grass will be white in the morning.

The great thing about a storm like this is the variation in temp and precipitation over a few miles. Yeah, would have liked to see all snow, but it's pretty cool just looking at some of the pictures and reading the chat. Maybe its because I'm old now, but I don't get nearly so flustered about a near miss in my backyard.

Meanwhile about 12 miles to your southeast Clinton Lancaster line it has been hanging at 38-40 all day with some very heavy rain. There is definitely a 190/Rte 2 line.

Maybe change the thread title to " We're gonna need a bigger boat"?

Never underestimate the Grinch. lol

Gonna be interesting in my new location. Lower elevation further north and east of Worcester just west of 495 (Bolton exit). If it goes over Boston it seems it will go over to rain or freezing rain for a bit here if not to all rain--maybe dryslot? Even so, if that scenario pans out the ground should be white on Christmas. Goes further west, well Welcome Grinchie lol. Still so early in the game. Could be a big hit, could be another attack of impotent rage for the weenies.

Aside from a lot of folks wanting an epic everything...what would be so bad about having a widespread 4-6 inches a couple days before Christmas?

So the Anti-Grinch Storm finally arrives! Why not call it the Father Christmas Snowblitzen (probably some thundersnow in it) on the heels of a great hit to whiten up the highlands and the north country this weekend. Even the Cape may whiten up by the end of it. Well, whatever comes of it, it doesn't look like a classic Grinch event on the horizon, but it most certainly looks like a fun week ahead as the hysteria increases the closer Santa gets. Will he bring presents to cheer the snow lovers or a muddy glob in the stocking? Only time will tell.

Was surprised that anyone south of Rt 2 and East of the Berkshires ever seriously thought this would pan out to more than an inch (if we are lucky to get that much). Be nice to get a surprise, but I'm not holding my breath. It was nice to have a couple of days of fairly solid cover here. Is there more hope just before Christmas? Anyhow, happy for folks to the north and west. Not going to whine about getting left out. It's even less productive to complain about the weather than it is to mope about politics.

I'm sticking by my winter "forecast", based on a lifetime of experience (3-5 AN Dec, +1 to -1 Jan, 5-8 AN Feb, 1-2 BN March with near normal snowfall due to a few good hits in cold spells). Who knows, the annual grinch storm may end up being a whiteout just to soften the heartache. lol

ORH 78; BOS 54; PVD 48; BDL 56; CLT (Clinton lol) 65 same guess for BED

ORH 78; BOS 54; PVD 48; BDL 56; CLT (Clinton lol) 65 same guess for BED

Seems like the Winter 022-023 page is pretty much defunct. I put this up in mid-November and I'm still feeling pretty good about it verifying overall. Don't ask for precise analogs; it's mostly just perception based on living here all my life and experience with torchy Novembers. Just for fun. Maybe a tad too AN for December but we'll see. Snowfall may not be so bad in between Lakes runners and big warmups. Maybe 2-4 AN December with spells in the mid to upper fifties instead of sixties. Guesses based on previous winters that start with a very warm November. Unscientific but probably more likely to pan out than the Old Farmers Almanac. Nov: 6-8 AN; Dec: 4-6 AN; Jan: 1-3 AN; Feb 5-8 AN; March 0-2 BN. In December we'll have some cold snowy outbreaks but a couple of multi-day spells of very high temps (generally low to mid-60s) will skew the month much above normal. The annual "grinch storm" is likely on the ticket. January will be closer to normal with a couple of inland runners with mild, rainy weather and maybe a coastal that will bring snow to much of the interior (and coast Boston northwards); February will be very mild and dry. Normal to below normal temps in March with significant snowfall throughout the region except for the Cape and islands.

Guesses based on previous winters that start with a very warm November. Unscientific but probably more likely to pan out than the Old Farmers Almanac. Nov: 6-8 AN; Dec: 4-6 AN; Jan: 1-3 AN; Feb 5-8 AN; March 0-2 BN. In December we'll have some cold snowy outbreaks but a couple of multi day spells of very high temps (generally low to mid 60s) will skew the month much above normal. The annual "grinch storm" is likely on the ticket. January will be closer to normal with a couple of inland runners with mild, rainy weather and maybe a coastal that will bring snow to much of the interior (and coast Boston northwards); February will be very mild and dry. Normal to below normal temps in March with significant snowfall throughout the region except for the Cape and islands.

Mild but snowy. Looks like December is going to follow the recent pattern at least here. Temps well above normal with a few isolated breaks. I'm dreaming of a mild, wet, green Christmas! lol.

40s and low 50s fine with me during the day in November; frosty nights too. I've had it with +20 AN along with dews in the 60's. Come Thanksgiving bring on the snow. Cold gets to me now that I've passed 65, but there are clothing solutions for that. I guess I like the transitions, I'd just keep the cold season a bit longer. But opinions about weather mean about as much as polls do for elections.

At last, some positive thinking!

61/44 here on the Clinton/Lancaster/Bolton junction. Nearby stations reading in the mid sixties. Got down to 39 last night and had ice on the windshield Sunday morning even though the temp bottomed out at 37. Foliage seems to be quite a bit ahead of recent years, but this might be due to living outside the city. Don't remember so much color in Worcester before the 20th in past years. Foliage is absolutely beautiful here--brilliant oranges and yellows--in spite of expectations that it would be hurt by the summer drought. Nothing like fall in New England.

Looks like about 0.2 to 0.25 in my area. Also looks like Wells area in Maine is going to do well. The "coastal" last week gave us a full day of light rain there. Anyhow, it sure was nice to see it coming down today. Can't wait for that week of rain we're bound to get in October, after the growing season is done.

Whatever the winter will bring, this has not been a "meh" summer in my region. We've had two (separate) weeks with daytime highs 95 or above with drenching humidity (especially the second wee). That's not "meh".

Live in Clinton MA now. Deal with the MWRA gives the town water in return for putting half of it underwater a hundred years ago so we have no restrictions. Wachusett Reservoir is more full now than it was in April. Heat is ridiculous. 96F today here. Got up to 95 in Wells Maine before we left today. This must be getting near record breaking drought/heat combination.

93/63 Dews coming down like the last 3 days. Temp down from high of 99, which seems a bit too much. Figure it might have peaked at 96 around noon. Local temps mostly in 95 to 97 range. So, I either hit my max's early, or, I'm cooler by 3-4 degrees than the other registers in the area (between 1 and 8 miles from my place).

96/71 Heat Index 103 Probably getting close to my high for the day. It seems I hit my high bewteen 11 and 1 here. Sun is not hitting thermometer. Of course, I'm not as accurate as the local broadcasting stations, but my max's have been pretty much spot on for the others in a five to ten mile range heading north and eastwards. A local heat bubble? Higher locations west of the reservoir seem to be 3 or 4 degrees lower some days. A few to my east and northeast at same elevation as me or lower bake a couple of degrees higher.

In the heat bubble again today. High of 95 matches my area and eastward at least through Maynard. Others ranged from 90-93 a little west and south. Again, max rather early in the day. If it weren't for the other local stations reporting essentially the same temps or a degree or two higher, I'd think I'm getting false readings. Before the heat wave I was a couple of degrees lower for max than many. Go figure. Dews were much lower but coming up a bit now. 61F here now, 66F in Lancaster.