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Jay today…I’d call that peak.

The 90s saw a lot of October openings. 2018 was the last October opening. In a recent interview, their GM was talking about how their focus is more on the late season, than the early season, which surprised me. He didn't say they won't do it, but talked about the incredible expense and how production is so piss poor that time of year. I got the impression they would still do it with the right cold window, but won't push it like they used too. Superstar is where I think they would take any available window just for a few world cup piles.

100 percent right on the furnace to start..I would say this is more than just “mild down” by the 9th as modeled. Don’t know if it lasts, but call it what it is. .

That cold shot showing up for 3 runs now would get Killington open on the north ridge in October for the first time since 2018 IF they wanted it...at the very least, lots of mountains testing their guns and turning things white. Then again, 24 hours ago temps were looking like late May so it's all a dream right now.

Dreary tho…has looked like it should rain any second almost all day. .

I actually enjoy it, especially during the dead months. Can't take this stuff to seriously. The storm tracking season doesn't officially begin until the first cries of winter is over in December.

it hasn't...just as ridiculous as saying nothing below 60 in New England until mid September or snow can't accumulate in late Feb.

50s for lows all week...we'll have frost by September....that mid august sun angle really doing it's thing! Thank god we can count on it to heat things up in Feb.

Can’t get hot in august…sun angle. .

Would be nice to see killington get back in the October ski game again..it’s been a few years since they’ve pulled it off. .

I went ikon again due to western trips, but I’ll do a few day passes at Stowe and smuggs because I can’t go a winter without those two. That epic North east pass is a tremendous value tho. .

always look forward to this thread starting up! .

True…not ready for snow guns yet, but 62/46 with full sun is pretty early fall like…And something about the first cool night stretch is always special to me as it means we’re beginning the climb back down. I know full well the days of ball sweat aren’t over yet. .

Sweatshirts the next 3 evenings at the mountain. Some upper 40s for lows… .

Breaking news from CNBC on a weather phenomenon… .

Only did about 800 ft and the sweat was pouring off me..can’t imagine 2k vert. .

83 even up at the mountain today. 90 down in the valley in Newport. One of the few days you actually need ac up here. .

That was pretty intense up here. Feels better outside now though. .

Crazy thunderstorm..absolute downpour. Feels good now though .

Ehh..you’re making it about someone intentionally going out there and measuring 9” and saying to the marketing team “ let’s go with 15 because no one would drive up here for just 9”. I don’t think that’s happening. It’s an incredibly windy mountain with a crazy micro climate and I think it’s just a matter of unscientific, inconsistent measuring along with using a range. And to be honest, most outside of a weather forum don’t give a shit. It snows anytime, for any reason or no reason at all there and it adds up over a long season. We are snow tools so we want to analyze it all, but in the end, once the base is over 3 feet, put 6 or put 18 on top and it all skis pretty damn good. Again, they one hundred percent get more than Mansfield. No question. It’s just an argument over how much. I could try and put a live feed camera in my backyard if anyone knows a good one that’s not crazy expensive or complicated and come up with some sort of plot, but I’m not there every day of the winter to get consistent measurements. Retirement in less than 5 and youngest graduates in 9 so that will be the winter I’ll try and get an accurate first to last flake winter and see where it’s at. .

As you pointed out as the season closed out, north of sugarbush almost always changed back to snow this season and saved an absolute disaster during so many storms. Most of vt. was an inch of slop followed by freezing rain and then a change back to a dusting, where jay changed back to 4-6. Very odd this year, or lucky. Early Dec started strong and went to absolute dog shit by the holidays…but that mid feb to late March run was very strong this year. There’s no question this year outperformed last year. March 21, 2022 @ 2250’ March 26,2023 @ 1850’ .

Jay gets the most snow in the east…period, no question. I’ve skied manfiejd and Jay in the same day and there is a difference. And south of there, they aren’t even in the same upslope ballpark. Jay will pull 6-8 on an overnight event 3 times a week, while even sugarbush is 2-3. It’s the frequency of the plus 1-2 that adds up over a 5 month long season. Plus add in a 3 degree temp diff at times with latitude. The only time anyone south of Mansfield cleans up on jay is synoptic or those lake streamers. Wind=snow in Vermont and you can’t possibly tell me the wind patterns are the same at Mansfield and Jay. The angle of the mountain is different and just wind holds alone would show the difference. Hell even stateside vs. the ridge sees a difference in snow totals. Burke is a similar distance from jay as Stowe and no one would argue they get half the snow at similar elevations. Now, you want tell me their reported 350 is really 310; no argument. I think pf hit the nail on the head with the problem using a range and always adding the high number. I’ve always said they should get a plot and cam. They will always finish number one in the east, so show it off, even if it’s not as high a number as expected. .

Stowe/smuggs interconnect gondola making news. Two mountains couldn’t be more different. I’m sure locals have know for a while and are not happy, but what a day it would be hitting both those in the same day. .

Not in Vermont. That’s a frigid looking week 2 and end to April, start to May. There’s going to wind up being some elevation snow in there too. .

An idea of what the base looks like on lower mountain snow making trails. Last foot is solid ice from December. Woods still very much in play today and though the naturals are showing signs of cracking, there is still a lot of snow on this mountain. The real melt starts Thursday, so need to get through this week to see how deep into May we go and what trails besides jet will last. .