LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 36 minutes ago, SACRUS said: I am not sure about 2012 being good reference for this year - we'll see. I was thinking more along the lines of a warmer 2024 and perhaps evolving towards years that favor a warmer-hotter August / early Aug - early Sep. Thus current ridge may throw a wrench - its a crap shoot. That sounds more like 1953 which had two of our most extreme heatwaves we've ever had with 4 100+ days split evenly between both (and our all time September record of 102). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: July 1993 had more 100+ days and the 100+ extreme heatwave it had in July was more extreme than the one in 2022 (it hit 105 the all time record at that time twice back then) and the extreme heat was much more widespread in 1993 as it covered the entire area-- NYC hit 100+ three days in a row and JFK 2 days in a row. It seems like we need higher heights for such extreme temperatures than we did back then (maybe it was easier to be hotter back then because the amount of moisture in the air was lower back then.) The higher heights sometimes result in over the top warm ups where the warmest temperatures relative to the means get directed into Northern New England and Canada. That has happened several times in recent years. This was due to more onshore flow here due to the elongation of the ridge east of New England. But this time it appears that the westerly flow will be more pervasive. So we’ll have higher heights and westerly flow this time. So this is why somebody around the area could see the first 105° heat ever recorded during the month of June. June 2021 set the previous all-time record at 103°. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 38 minutes ago, bluewave said: No. The 500mb heights were lower back then. We just set the all-time 500 mb height record in June 2024 at 599dm for our area when we had the 100° heat last June. This time the magnitude of the heat and the duration of the ridge will be more impressive. Those older 100° heatwaves weren’t as long as the one experienced in July 2022 which ran 5 days. Number of Consecutive Days Max Temperature >= 100 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 5 2022-07-20 through 2022-07-24 4 2010-07-04 through 2010-07-07 - 4 1993-07-07 through 1993-07-10 - 4 1953-08-28 through 1953-08-31 3 2011-07-21 through 2011-07-23 - 3 2006-08-01 through 2006-08-03 - 3 2001-08-07 through 2001-08-09 - 3 1966-07-02 through 1966-07-04 - 3 1949-08-09 through 1949-08-11 - 3 1949-07-28 through 1949-07-30 2 2021-06-29 through 2021-06-30 - 2 2013-07-18 through 2013-07-19 - 2 2012-07-17 through 2012-07-18 - 2 1999-07-05 through 1999-07-06 - 2 1993-08-27 through 1993-08-28 - 2 1991-07-20 through 1991-07-21 - 2 1988-07-16 through 1988-07-17 - 2 1988-07-10 through 1988-07-11 - 2 1980-07-20 through 1980-07-21 - 2 1955-07-22 through 1955-07-23 - 2 1949-07-03 through 1949-07-04 - 2 1944-08-04 through 1944-08-05 - 2 1943-06-25 through 1943-06-26 - 2 1936-07-09 through 1936-07-10 Chris please note how 2022 is only on this list once, while years like 1949 and 1993 are on this list multiple times, they had many more 100+ days than 2022 did. 1993 is on this list twice while 1949 is on this list a whopping three times. It does seem like it was easier to hit 100 back then with lower heights, it must be because of lower humidity levels back then, more like a desert than the tropical rainforest we live in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: The higher heights sometimes result in over the top warm ups where the warmest temperatures relative to the means get directed into Northern New England and Canada. That has happened several times in recent years. This was due to more onshore flow here due to the elongation of the ridge east of New England. But this time it appears that the westerly flow will be more pervasive. So we’ll have higher heights and westerly flow this time. So this is why somebody around the area could see the first 105° heat ever recorded during the month of June. June 2021 set the previous all-time record at 103°. But was it also easier to hit 100 back then because of lower moisture in the air (I'll use 1949 as an example even more than 1993 which is more recent.) So back then lower heights were needed to hit 100 than what we need now to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Finally a free source has the 6z Euro. It looks like there's an ocean wind on Monday keeping the bad heat inland. Tuesday the winds go NW and everyone torches full blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I hope we hit 103 or 104 next week to tie or break the June record. If it's going to be tremendously hot, we might as well make it historic instead of just upper 90s to near 100. Very nice to get the break in the humidity today though. Feels good out there with dewpoints in the 50s. With sunshine and temps going to the mid 80s, this is a top 10 type of day for the summer. Perfect for outdoor activities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Sundog said: Finally a free source has the 6z Euro. It looks like there's an ocean wind on Monday keeping the bad heat inland. Tuesday the winds go NW and everyone torches full blast. Great news. I don't really care about Monday, maybe we'll finally have an exceptional day, not the mediocre heat of every summer since 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Just now, winterwx21 said: I hope we hit 103 or 104 next week to tie or break the June record. If it's going to be tremendously hot, we might as well make it historic instead of just upper 90s to near 100. Very nice to get the break in the humidity today though. Feels good out there with dewpoints in the 50s. With sunshine and temps going to the mid 80s, this is a top 10 type of day for the summer. Perfect for outdoor activities. Exactly, getting to 98 or 99 is as annoying as a 98 or 99 on a test. 100 is perfection in both cases, so that would be ideal. 105 for extra credit lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 78 / 57 and breezy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 6 hours ago, mjr said: Apart from time series comparisons is the issue of comparing NYC weather and climate with other locations and regions and also describing NYC summer weather characteristics to the general public. In the interest of simplicity, summer weather is frequently measured by the number of days which exceed 90 degrees while other factors, such as high minimum temperatures, are basically ignored. Recently, a top meteorologist at a leading weather service provider was giving his summer forecast and it was based on the number of 90 degree days. If I remember correctly he used 16 days as average for NYC while the corresponding figures for other cities were 14 for Boston, 30 for Philly and 40 for DC. While it is certainly true that PHL and DCA have higher summer maxima, this gives the misimpression that overall summer conditions for NYC (usually interpreted as Manhattan) and Boston are largely indistinguishable. Of course you can blame the one dimensional criterion that he used but the thermometer siting is certainly a nontrivial factor. Just as an aside, when comparing NYC to other locations, an overwhelming number of observations are taken in airport or urban environments so maybe concrete is a more useful comparison. Another way that we can look at how the tree growth over the NYC ASOS has artificially cooled the summer highs there since the 1990s is the comparison between Newark and NYC high temperatures on the warmest day of all the decades since the 1930s. Into the 1980s NYC would often be warmer than Newark on the warmest day of the decade. But the relationship shifted during the 1990s when the NYC ASOS was moved under the trees. Now Newark is always warmer on the warmest day of the decade than NYC. The current warmest day of the 2020s is 6-30-2021. Newark reached 103° with NYC only reaching 98°. So NYC was 5° cooler. Next Tuesday could be the warmest day of the 2020s so far. So it will be interesting to see if Newark can rival or even exceed the +5° warmer than NYC in 2021. Warmest day of the decade comparison between NYC and EWR 6-30-2021 EWR….103°…..+5° NYC….98° 7-21-2011 EWR….108°…..+4° NYC…104° 8-9-2001 EWR…105°……+2° NYC…103° 7-10-1993 EWR….105°…..+3 NYC….102° 7-21-1980 NYC….102°…..+1° EWR….101° 7-21-1977 NYC…..104°……+2° EWR…..102° 7-23-1966 EWR…..105°….+2° NYC…..103° 9-3-1952 EWR…..105°…..+2° NYC…..103° 7-4-1949 EWR….105°…..+3° NYC….102° 7-9-1936 NYC…..106°….+2° EWR….104° 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, bluewave said: No. The 500mb heights were lower back then. We just set the all-time 500 mb height record in June 2024 at 599dm for our area when we had the 100° heat last June. This time the magnitude of the heat and the duration of the ridge will be more impressive. Those older 100° heatwaves weren’t as long as the one experienced in July 2022 which ran 5 days. Number of Consecutive Days Max Temperature >= 100 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 5 2022-07-20 through 2022-07-24 4 2010-07-04 through 2010-07-07 - 4 1993-07-07 through 1993-07-10 - 4 1953-08-28 through 1953-08-31 3 2011-07-21 through 2011-07-23 - 3 2006-08-01 through 2006-08-03 - 3 2001-08-07 through 2001-08-09 - 3 1966-07-02 through 1966-07-04 - 3 1949-08-09 through 1949-08-11 - 3 1949-07-28 through 1949-07-30 2 2021-06-29 through 2021-06-30 - 2 2013-07-18 through 2013-07-19 - 2 2012-07-17 through 2012-07-18 - 2 1999-07-05 through 1999-07-06 - 2 1993-08-27 through 1993-08-28 - 2 1991-07-20 through 1991-07-21 - 2 1988-07-16 through 1988-07-17 - 2 1988-07-10 through 1988-07-11 - 2 1980-07-20 through 1980-07-21 - 2 1955-07-22 through 1955-07-23 - 2 1949-07-03 through 1949-07-04 - 2 1944-08-04 through 1944-08-05 - 2 1943-06-25 through 1943-06-26 - 2 1936-07-09 through 1936-07-10 Interesting how many balloons and radiosondes were deployed or utilized in 30s-40s and 50s to get regional or national 500MB observations. Id argue those heat domes were just as high then with those readings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Now the GFS is hotter than the damned Euro. Monday 5PM temps in central Queens on 12z GFS: 104 degrees On 6z Euro: 85 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 18 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Interesting how many balloons and radiosondes were deployed or utilized in 30s-40s and 50s to get regional or national 500MB observations. Id argue those heat domes were just as high then with those readings. Last June set the highest 500mb height record for our area since 1952. It came in ahead of 2018 and 2013. 500 mb heights have been steadily increasing over the years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 12z GGEM also has the evening seabreeze for Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, bluewave said: Last June set the highest 500mb height record for our area. It came in ahead of 2018 and 2013. 500 mb heights have been steadily increasing over the years. To be fair all those tens of thousands of feet tall vertical cities everywhere have added UHI to the entire atmospheric column 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Sundog said: To be fair all those tens of thousands of feet tall vertical cities everywhere have added UHI to the entire atmospheric column UHI is too shallow and localized to influence the 500mb heights across the Northern Hemisphere. These record breaking ridges have been occurring across all areas of the Northern Hemisphere including the oceans and relatively uninhabited land areas. Just look at all the record 500mb heights on the Caribou, Maine balloon soundings in recent years just like our area. Their records go back to 1948. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, bluewave said: Last June set the highest 500mb height record for our area since 1952. It came in ahead of 2018 and 2013. 500 mb heights have been steadily increasing over the years. How did they calculate regional , continental 500MB heights then ? how large was the network of radiosondes and balloons then vs now? I havwe to go ovack to the 2001 heat dome in August and the 2011, 2013 how did they stack both were >594 DM from my recollection . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 16 minutes ago, bluewave said: UHI is too shallow and localized to influence the 500mb heights across the Northern Hemisphere. These record breaking ridges have been occurring across all areas of the Northern Hemisphere including the oceans and relatively uninhabited land areas. Just look at all the record 500mb heights on the Caribou, Maine balloon soundings in recent years just like our area. Their records go back to 1948. The question though is, at least for our part of the country, do we need a stronger 500mb ridge to achieve 100 degrees than we needed in, for example, 1944 or 1948 or 1949 or 1953 or 1955 or 1993? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Sundog said: Now the GFS is hotter than the damned Euro. Monday 5PM temps in central Queens on 12z GFS: 104 degrees On 6z Euro: 85 degrees this is exciting as the two models taking turns forecasting a 30 inch snowstorm for us vs 3 inches of rain lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 41 minutes ago, bluewave said: Another way that we can look at how the tree growth over the NYC ASOS has artificially cooled the summer highs there since the 1990s is the comparison between Newark and NYC high temperatures on the warmest day of all the decades since the 1930s. Into the 1980s NYC would often be warmer than Newark on the warmest day of the decade. But the relationship shifted during the 1990s when the NYC ASOS was moved under the trees. Now Newark is always warmer on the warmest day of the decade than NYC. The current warmest day of the 2020s is 6-30-2021. Newark reached 103° with NYC only reaching 98°. So NYC was 5° cooler. Next Tuesday could be the warmest day of the 2020s so far. So it will be interesting to see if Newark can rival or even exceed the +5° warmer than NYC in 2021. Warmest day of the decade comparison between NYC and EWR 6-30-2021 EWR….103°…..+5° NYC….98° 7-21-2011 EWR….108°…..+4° NYC…104° 8-9-2001 EWR…105°……+2° NYC…103° 7-10-1993 EWR….105°…..+3 NYC….102° 7-21-1980 NYC….102°…..+1° EWR….101° 7-21-1977 NYC…..104°……+2° EWR…..102° 7-23-1966 EWR…..105°….+2° NYC…..103° 9-3-1952 EWR…..105°…..+2° NYC…..103° 7-4-1949 EWR….105°…..+3° NYC….102° 7-9-1936 NYC…..106°….+2° EWR….104° to be fair EWR was also hotter than NYC before the foliage problem happened (I'm referring to 1988, 1991 and 1993). But we can use just EWR data if you prefer. Just going by EWR data, 1949 and 1993 have the most 100+ days It makes me think we need lower heights to reach triple digits back then than what we need now (because of more moisture in the air now.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 44 minutes ago, bluewave said: Another way that we can look at how the tree growth over the NYC ASOS has artificially cooled the summer highs there since the 1990s is the comparison between Newark and NYC high temperatures on the warmest day of all the decades since the 1930s. Into the 1980s NYC would often be warmer than Newark on the warmest day of the decade. But the relationship shifted during the 1990s when the NYC ASOS was moved under the trees. Now Newark is always warmer on the warmest day of the decade than NYC. The current warmest day of the 2020s is 6-30-2021. Newark reached 103° with NYC only reaching 98°. So NYC was 5° cooler. Next Tuesday could be the warmest day of the 2020s so far. So it will be interesting to see if Newark can rival or even exceed the +5° warmer than NYC in 2021. Warmest day of the decade comparison between NYC and EWR 6-30-2021 EWR….103°…..+5° NYC….98° 7-21-2011 EWR….108°…..+4° NYC…104° 8-9-2001 EWR…105°……+2° NYC…103° 7-10-1993 EWR….105°…..+3 NYC….102° 7-21-1980 NYC….102°…..+1° EWR….101° 7-21-1977 NYC…..104°……+2° EWR…..102° 7-23-1966 EWR…..105°….+2° NYC…..103° 9-3-1952 EWR…..105°…..+2° NYC…..103° 7-4-1949 EWR….105°…..+3° NYC….102° 7-9-1936 NYC…..106°….+2° EWR….104° wow what the heck was going on in 1949 lol, was that the 1940s version of 2010? I wonder if JFK had many 100 degree days that summer, I know they had three in a row in 1948. Come to think of it, 1948 and 1949 sound a lot like 2010 and 2011.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago On a different topic are we going to get a big northern lights display from this? https://www.newsweek.com/nasa-satellite-extreme-solar-flare-us-states-blackout-map-2088388 Large parts of the United States faced a radio blackout on Thursday following a strong solar flare from the sun. The "extreme ultraviolet flash" was captured by NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory satellite. The solar flare, categorized as X-class in scale—the highest scale, was triggered by an active region of a sunspot on June 19 at 11:50 p.m. UTC. Radiation from the X1.9 blast caused a shortwave radio blackout over the Pacific Ocean, leading to a loss of signal at frequencies below 25 Megahertz (MHz). Amateur radio operators, especially in Hawaii, may have noticed the signal loss. Solar flares are intense bursts of radiation from the sun. The most powerful explosions in the solar system, they can can contain as much energy as a billion hydrogen bombs, according to NASA. Solar flares are classified according to their intensity, with X being the highest on the scale. X-class solar flares can cause planet-wide radio blackouts and long-lasting radiation storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 40 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: wow what the heck was going on in 1949 lol, was that the 1940s version of 2010? I wonder if JFK had many 100 degree days that summer, I know they had three in a row in 1948. Come to think of it, 1948 and 1949 sound a lot like 2010 and 2011.... JFK highest was 99 in 1949: Day High (°F) Low (°F) Precip. (inches) Snow (inches) June 1 73 53 0.00 0.0 June 2 71 53 0.00 0.0 June 3 70 52 0.00 0.0 June 4 75 56 0.00 0.0 June 5 76 65 0.00 0.0 June 6 79 64 0.00 0.0 June 7 84 61 0.00 0.0 June 8 73 53 0.00 0.0 June 9 72 53 0.00 0.0 June 10 69 55 0.00 0.0 June 11 79 62 0.00 0.0 June 12 80 66 0.00 0.0 June 13 76 65 0.00 0.0 June 14 76 65 0.00 0.0 June 15 79 65 0.00 0.0 June 16 82 67 0.00 0.0 June 17 82 69 0.00 0.0 June 18 82 70 0.00 0.0 June 19 81 71 0.00 0.0 June 20 82 69 0.00 0.0 June 21 87 73 0.00 0.0 June 22 91 71 0.00 0.0 June 23 88 68 0.00 0.0 June 24 86 65 0.00 0.0 June 25 85 71 0.00 0.0 June 26 99 75 0.00 0.0 June 27 93 66 0.00 0.0 June 28 77 62 0.00 0.0 June 29 75 60 0.00 0.0 June 30 76 62 0.00 0.0 July 1949 JFK Airport Weather Day High (°F) Low (°F) Precip. (inches) Snow (inches) July 1 81 62 0.00 0.0 July 2 84 67 0.00 0.0 July 3 92 72 0.00 0.0 July 4 96 76 0.00 0.0 July 5 96 76 0.00 0.0 July 6 83 69 0.40 0.0 July 7 80 64 0.03 0.0 July 8 78 65 0.00 0.0 July 9 78 65 0.00 0.0 July 10 77 69 0.05 0.0 July 11 84 67 0.00 0.0 July 12 78 71 0.21 0.0 July 13 83 70 0.67 0.0 July 14 88 70 0.00 0.0 July 15 83 72 0.00 0.0 July 16 81 72 0.00 0.0 July 17 76 70 0.83 0.0 July 18 90 74 0.00 0.0 July 19 89 75 0.00 0.0 July 20 87 75 0.00 0.0 July 21 91 78 0.00 0.0 July 22 94 76 0.00 0.0 July 23 91 73 0.00 0.0 July 24 84 64 0.00 0.0 July 25 90 71 0.16 0.0 July 26 84 71 0.00 0.0 July 27 84 71 0.22 0.0 July 28 98 70 0.00 0.0 July 29 94 76 0.00 0.0 July 30 93 77 0.00 0.0 July 31 86 74 0.00 0.0 August 1949 JFK Airport Weather Day High (°F) Low (°F) Precip. (inches) Snow (inches) August 1 85 67 0.00 0.0 August 2 83 67 0.00 0.0 August 3 83 72 0.08 0.0 August 4 78 73 0.52 0.0 August 5 84 72 0.00 0.0 August 6 90 70 0.00 0.0 August 7 89 71 0.00 0.0 August 8 89 72 0.00 0.0 August 9 95 75 0.00 0.0 August 10 94 76 0.00 0.0 August 11 99 76 0.02 0.0 August 12 88 70 0.88 0.0 August 13 80 68 1.53 0.0 August 14 79 68 0.00 0.0 August 15 78 64 0.00 0.0 August 16 80 68 0.02 0.0 August 17 78 65 0.00 0.0 August 18 74 64 0.00 0.0 August 19 80 62 0.00 0.0 August 20 77 55 0.00 0.0 August 21 83 56 0.00 0.0 August 22 80 63 0.00 0.0 August 23 82 61 0.00 0.0 August 24 83 69 0.36 0.0 August 25 78 61 0.00 0.0 August 26 82 63 0.00 0.0 August 27 85 70 0.00 0.0 August 28 81 72 0.00 0.0 August 29 84 69 0.39 0.0 August 30 80 65 0.00 0.0 August 31 78 68 1.47 0.0 September 1949 JFK Airport Weather Day High (°F) Low (°F) Precip. (inches) Snow (inches) September 1 82 63 0.08 0.0 September 2 74 53 0.00 0.0 September 3 76 56 0.00 0.0 September 4 76 59 0.00 0.0 September 5 78 67 0.42 0.0 September 6 78 59 0.19 0.0 September 7 70 54 0.00 0.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 81 / 56 partly cloudy as some clouds move in from the north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, bluewave said: UHI is too shallow and localized to influence the 500mb heights across the Northern Hemisphere. These record breaking ridges have been occurring across all areas of the Northern Hemisphere including the oceans and relatively uninhabited land areas. Just look at all the record 500mb heights on the Caribou, Maine balloon soundings in recent years just like our area. Their records go back to 1948. Of course what you say is true, I was being silly lol I was being sarcastic because people blame UHI for everything. How does UHI explain record breaking 850mb temperatures for example? It doesn't, but people will continue to blame the airport or the concrete at sea level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Major seabreeze on the 12z Euro for Monday, but Tuesday we go to 106 for a fairly large area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 12z Euro AI still focuses highest heat over NJ intsead of sweeping it to the beaches. It also has a seabreeze for Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: JFK highest was 99 in 1949: Day High (°F) Low (°F) Precip. (inches) Snow (inches) June 1 73 53 0.00 0.0 June 2 71 53 0.00 0.0 June 3 70 52 0.00 0.0 June 4 75 56 0.00 0.0 June 5 76 65 0.00 0.0 June 6 79 64 0.00 0.0 June 7 84 61 0.00 0.0 June 8 73 53 0.00 0.0 June 9 72 53 0.00 0.0 June 10 69 55 0.00 0.0 June 11 79 62 0.00 0.0 June 12 80 66 0.00 0.0 June 13 76 65 0.00 0.0 June 14 76 65 0.00 0.0 June 15 79 65 0.00 0.0 June 16 82 67 0.00 0.0 June 17 82 69 0.00 0.0 June 18 82 70 0.00 0.0 June 19 81 71 0.00 0.0 June 20 82 69 0.00 0.0 June 21 87 73 0.00 0.0 June 22 91 71 0.00 0.0 June 23 88 68 0.00 0.0 June 24 86 65 0.00 0.0 June 25 85 71 0.00 0.0 June 26 99 75 0.00 0.0 June 27 93 66 0.00 0.0 June 28 77 62 0.00 0.0 June 29 75 60 0.00 0.0 June 30 76 62 0.00 0.0 July 1949 JFK Airport Weather Day High (°F) Low (°F) Precip. (inches) Snow (inches) July 1 81 62 0.00 0.0 July 2 84 67 0.00 0.0 July 3 92 72 0.00 0.0 July 4 96 76 0.00 0.0 July 5 96 76 0.00 0.0 July 6 83 69 0.40 0.0 July 7 80 64 0.03 0.0 July 8 78 65 0.00 0.0 July 9 78 65 0.00 0.0 July 10 77 69 0.05 0.0 July 11 84 67 0.00 0.0 July 12 78 71 0.21 0.0 July 13 83 70 0.67 0.0 July 14 88 70 0.00 0.0 July 15 83 72 0.00 0.0 July 16 81 72 0.00 0.0 July 17 76 70 0.83 0.0 July 18 90 74 0.00 0.0 July 19 89 75 0.00 0.0 July 20 87 75 0.00 0.0 July 21 91 78 0.00 0.0 July 22 94 76 0.00 0.0 July 23 91 73 0.00 0.0 July 24 84 64 0.00 0.0 July 25 90 71 0.16 0.0 July 26 84 71 0.00 0.0 July 27 84 71 0.22 0.0 July 28 98 70 0.00 0.0 July 29 94 76 0.00 0.0 July 30 93 77 0.00 0.0 July 31 86 74 0.00 0.0 August 1949 JFK Airport Weather Day High (°F) Low (°F) Precip. (inches) Snow (inches) August 1 85 67 0.00 0.0 August 2 83 67 0.00 0.0 August 3 83 72 0.08 0.0 August 4 78 73 0.52 0.0 August 5 84 72 0.00 0.0 August 6 90 70 0.00 0.0 August 7 89 71 0.00 0.0 August 8 89 72 0.00 0.0 August 9 95 75 0.00 0.0 August 10 94 76 0.00 0.0 August 11 99 76 0.02 0.0 August 12 88 70 0.88 0.0 August 13 80 68 1.53 0.0 August 14 79 68 0.00 0.0 August 15 78 64 0.00 0.0 August 16 80 68 0.02 0.0 August 17 78 65 0.00 0.0 August 18 74 64 0.00 0.0 August 19 80 62 0.00 0.0 August 20 77 55 0.00 0.0 August 21 83 56 0.00 0.0 August 22 80 63 0.00 0.0 August 23 82 61 0.00 0.0 August 24 83 69 0.36 0.0 August 25 78 61 0.00 0.0 August 26 82 63 0.00 0.0 August 27 85 70 0.00 0.0 August 28 81 72 0.00 0.0 August 29 84 69 0.39 0.0 August 30 80 65 0.00 0.0 August 31 78 68 1.47 0.0 September 1949 JFK Airport Weather Day High (°F) Low (°F) Precip. (inches) Snow (inches) September 1 82 63 0.08 0.0 September 2 74 53 0.00 0.0 September 3 76 56 0.00 0.0 September 4 76 59 0.00 0.0 September 5 78 67 0.42 0.0 September 6 78 59 0.19 0.0 September 7 70 54 0.00 0.0 wild, so 2 99s in 1949, one in June and one in August, and one 98 in July Tony? and did the 3 100+ in a row in 1948 at JFK and NYC both happen in August Tony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Sundog said: Major seabreeze on the 12z Euro for Monday, but Tuesday we go to 106 for a fairly large area YES, 1936 redux!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Sundog said: Of course what you say is true, I was being silly lol I was being sarcastic because people blame UHI for everything. How does UHI explain record breaking 850mb temperatures for example? It doesn't, but people will continue to blame the airport or the concrete at sea level. It's much more logical to assume we needed lower heights to reach 100+ in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, because the air was much drier back then. We got a taste of that in 2010..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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