WxUSAF Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Cool graphic from Slate covers all fatalities from 2008 to 2010. This past outbreak's death total surpasses those 3 years combined. As expected, about half the deaths are in mobile homes. Fewest are in vehicles or outdoors. Do you think that's just due to the fact that most people try to get inside when a tornado is imminent? http://www.slate.com/id/2292467/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Man, that is so cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFanatica Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Thanks for posting, interesting numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Cool graphic from Slate covers all fatalities from 2008 to 2010. This past outbreak's death total surpasses those 3 years combined. As expected, about half the deaths are in mobile homes. Fewest are in vehicles or outdoors. Do you think that's just due to the fact that most people try to get inside when a tornado is imminent? http://www.slate.com/id/2292467/ Some of the data it has is wrong......I know that one person was killed in their vehicle in the Moore/Wake Co tornado on Apr 16th but they have a 0 listed beside vehicle for that storm. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/rah/news/content/20110416_raleigh_survey.pdf TORNADO CONTINUED TO INTENSIFY TO EF3 ALONG LEMON SPRINGS ROAD STRIKING THE ST ANDREWS SUBDIVISION. ONE FATALITY OCCURRED IN A VEHICLE ALONG LEMON SPRINGS ROAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFanatica Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I was surprised by the relatively low number of people killed in vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I was surprised by the relatively low number of people killed in vehicles. Especially in the Raleigh tornado luckily it appears to mostly have been EF1 as it went through the heart of the city, but the video from the WRAL cam that shows cars being over run by the tornado is chilling, luckily again it was weaker at that point if it was still as strong as it had been in Sanford........... Really the problem in the south is twofold with the first and main issue being lots of trailers or modular homes, this is compounded by the fact we cant have basements in lots of areas. However lots of the people that were killed the last few days died in well built structures, and at the end of the day people have to accept that unless you are underground ( and even then its no gaurantee) and a EF4-5 directly hits your home your screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeronicaCorningstone Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Some of the data it has is wrong......I know that one person was killed in their vehicle in the Moore/Wake Co tornado on Apr 16th but they have a 0 listed beside vehicle for that storm. http://www.erh.noaa....eigh_survey.pdf TORNADO CONTINUED TO INTENSIFY TO EF3 ALONG LEMON SPRINGS ROAD STRIKING THE ST ANDREWS SUBDIVISION. ONE FATALITY OCCURRED IN A VEHICLE ALONG LEMON SPRINGS ROAD. I'm curious as to where Slate got their information on the Sanford/Raleigh tornado also. They said 6 fatalities were in homes/buildings - With the exception of the 1 fatality you referenced from the official survey, the other 5 were all in mobile homes - clearly stated in the same survey (clips below). (in the Stony Brook Mobile Home Park) IT IS IN THIS AREA WHERE 3 FATALITIES WERE REPORTED WHEN TWO MOBILE HOMES WERE THROWN 30 TO 50 FEET WHEN THE TIE DOWNS SNAPPED FROM THEIR ANCHOR POINTS. Also - A FATALITY OCCURRED ALONG POPLAR SPRING CHURCH ROAD IN A MOBILE HOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I'm curious as to where Slate got their information on the Sanford/Raleigh tornado also. They said 6 fatalities were in homes/buildings - With the exception of the 1 fatality you referenced from the official survey, the other 5 were all in mobile homes - clearly stated in the same survey (clips below). (in the Stony Brook Mobile Home Park) IT IS IN THIS AREA WHERE 3 FATALITIES WERE REPORTED WHEN TWO MOBILE HOMES WERE THROWN 30 TO 50 FEET WHEN THE TIE DOWNS SNAPPED FROM THEIR ANCHOR POINTS. Also - A FATALITY OCCURRED ALONG POPLAR SPRING CHURCH ROAD IN A MOBILE HOME. Good catch obviously Slate isnt using NOAA as a source since everything they have for that storm is wrong lol....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeronicaCorningstone Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Good catch obviously Slate isnt using NOAA as a source since everything they have for that storm is wrong lol....... After looking a little more closely, realized it was missing another one, too (from the November 15, 2008 event in Kenly) - 1 fatality in a doublewide mobile home. (They did, however, catch the other death during the same event in Wilson Co. - it was in a stick-built home) http://www4.ncsu.edu/~nwsfo/storage/cases/20081115/ Despite some inaccuracy, it is still an interesting graphic. I too was a little surprised by the low amount of deaths in vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Good catch obviously Slate isnt using NOAA as a source since everything they have for that storm is wrong lol....... Reading is fundamental...these are 2008 to 2010 numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeronicaCorningstone Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Reading is fundamental...these are 2008 to 2010 numbers. Well, from the title on the graphic... "Tornado-related deaths, 2008-2011.Click the buttons to see data by circumstance." Also included Moore-Wake Co. on the graphic, April 16, 2011. Fact checking/good editing from Slate is fundamental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Reading is fundamental...these are 2008 to 2010 numbers. Wow practice what you preach the map has tornados from Apr 16th 2011 and the info they have for them is 100% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mencken_Fan Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Cool graphic from Slate covers all fatalities from 2008 to 2010. This past outbreak's death total surpasses those 3 years combined. As expected, about half the deaths are in mobile homes. Fewest are in vehicles or outdoors. Do you think that's just due to the fact that most people try to get inside when a tornado is imminent? http://www.slate.com/id/2292467/ Thank you for the interesting graphic. What surprised me was how few are killed in motor vehicles. Might it be that vehicles provide more protection than we're led to believe? Or might it be that people in vehicles are generally successful in escaping tornadoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Wow practice what you preach the map has tornados from Apr 16th 2011 and the info they have for them is 100% wrong. I don't see where it has April 16th specifically, but I see it says 2008-11 on the graphic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFanatica Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Thank you for the interesting graphic. What surprised me was how few are killed in motor vehicles. Might it be that vehicles provide more protection than we're led to believe? Or might it be that people in vehicles are generally successful in escaping tornadoes? probably a combination of the latter and the number of people in cars that get hit by tornadoes is pretty low in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I don't see where it has April 16th specifically, but I see it says 2008-11 on the graphic. Near OBX of NC and VA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I wonder how many people where killed by falling debris outside the tornado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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