Great Snow 1717

9 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

You did fabulous. Nice for you.

..until the rain mid week and late week.....a lot of heavy wet snow on roofs....last thing needed is 2 back to back soaking rain storms. 

13.75 in Methuen as of 1:15

10.25 in Methuen

9 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

Toasters will be selling out quick today.. 

Still time for people to pick up a decorative toaster!

3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

https://x.com/ericfisher/status/1743292700894400827?s=46&t=dhcbvkjmRcyBVQtDxJ3lRg

Matt Noyes mentioned the same thing this morning..

8 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

I assumed a snowsquall impacted your ability to read that post..

Every time I hear/see the word snow squall I am reminded of the time I was chased by the police while in Canada..

19 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

I saw that lol. That's what happens when you reply to posts as you go rather then read everything THEN reply 

I assumed a snowsquall impacted your ability to read that post..

2 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Lmao. Pointing out a fact or weather statistic makes you a denier. What have I got to deny? I live in an area with 4 distinct seasons & do my part at being friendly to the environment. Im all good. I forget that posting weather stats on a weather board offends some. 

Dude I already wrote that I was not referring to you lol

On 12/31/2023 at 5:36 PM, NittanyWx said:

Just unnecessary level of emotion in discussing various factors and minutae that impact a storm.  It's fair game to discuss it.

I agree!

8 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

It’s beautiful verbatim but I gotta be honest, that’s a little too close for my liking. 

exactly!

1 hour ago, Torch Tiger said:

yeah what's up with these days and days folks this AM?  Untapped already? wow

11 AM delivery for the model watching crew...

Just now, LibertyBell said:

at the same time we can't use the entire climate history of every station either though because these are varying periods for different places so it would be an apples to oranges comparison (for example comparing Central Park to JFK airport, one's period of record began in the 1860s while the other's began in the 1950s lol.)  So I think at least doubling that recorded history period to 1950-onwards makes sense because most of our reliable airport stations began keeping records in the 1950s.

I agree regarding the stations but the long term dataset would still provide worthwhile data to do comparisons. 

Just now, LibertyBell said:

I dont like 30 year averages either, it's a very arbitrary number to use.

 

it skews the "numbers"

13 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Cold morning…18° at CON

Only 3F above normal

I wonder how far above compared to the long term average..

3 minutes ago, Layman said:

18.0 this morning. Lowest of all of 2024 so far. 

Sort of like saying "I finished first in a road race" while neglecting to mention that there was only 1 other person in the race...

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I don't think he's a denier though (I think he stated that he understands the rate of change proceeds at different rates in different places.)  I like more complete datasets too, and I think 1950 onwards is a good period to use since 1950 is when most of our records began to be kept in a more reliable way (it's also the beginning of the satellite era.)

 

......not saying him specifically but there are numerous people on these forums that downplay the impact of climate change. 

The temps should be compared to the entire available database as opposed to 30 year averages. Doing so would allow people to grasp the full impact that climate change has had and continues to have. 

58 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I would rather use since 1950, but we know that all of these methods are imperfect because none of them shows a complete climate picture.

*the reason I would use 1950 as my starting point is that is when many of our airport records began and also when we started having a complete record of ENSO data.

 

Deniers are going to deny...

14 hours ago, NittanyWx said:

 

 

It's a delicate balancing act of the 3 factors you're reinforcing here in addition to a low track omplicated and influenced by both upstream and downstream factors.  And that's before we even get to the resolving of Canadian HP strength at hr 168.

 

Lot more moving pieces here than just surface high and track of the low.  Thought it was kinda ridiculous to simplify it down to such.

 

Anyway, happy new year!

I hope you keep posting!

7 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

These are your teachers at BOX that you’re doubting. Is that a good idea?

42 minutes ago, kdxken said:

The 4 inches of rain will verify.

I'm all in...

Just now, dryslot said:

Don't think were far from some now actually, That may send a few off if the MA snows before SNE does.

...some people are on the brink...

2 minutes ago, dryslot said:

I'll sit back with popcorn if both of these whiff.

Cue the epic meltdowns...

1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Global warming is absolutely happening. There isn't any debate.

Looks like Judah Cohen is still expecting a SSW and subsequent PV split, though he admits its far from a certainty.

https://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation/

And again, this is not the end all.....you need more to go right to save winter in the east, but it helps.

What is Cohen's batting average??? 

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

thats YOUR experience, meanwhile other parts of the country are having much more rapid changes than what you are having.  Your area is less sensitive to the effects of climate change than my area is and what other parts of the country have.

 

Bordering the relatively "warm" Atlantic Ocean is certainly having an impact..

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

It's embarrassingly obvious at this point with how much things have changed over the last few decades; it isn't just about this year, it's about every year now.  My allergies have gotten much worse since the growing season got months longer and our rainfall totals have increased by at least 50%.  So using some random year in the 1930s as a counterpoint doesn't really mean anything.

It's having major societal and health impacts.

Correct