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It would suck to be on Mt. Geos for this one. You could smell the snow while getting drenched with 33° and rain. I'll take my half inch of rain and like it.

That's absolutely a thing. I would say an overwhelming majority of people in this part of the country want a white Christmas and then no more snow for the rest of winter. Also, this discussion reminds me that we didn't have a white Christmas here last year, but we had a white Christmas eve. This counts, doesn't it?

My back yard is currently one of the nation's hottest of hotspots. And the hospitals are almost full. Pretty soon there won't be many available diversion routes. https://www.wfft.com/content/news/Allen-County-ranks-in-top-ten-COVID-19-hot-spots-in-the-United-States-573337761.html

...and here you go. https://www.wane.com/news/covid-patient-tells-doctor-all-22-people-at-thanksgiving-dinner-have-since-tested-positive/

Indiana's Governor Holcomb just announced that hospitals are required to postpone all non-emergency procedures until Jan 6th. He also empathized that if you feel you need medical attention, get it. The problem with this action is that many who may need immediate medical attention may not act on it and negatively affect their outcome. EDIT: He also told health departments that there are no exceptions permitted to limits on gathering numbers based each county's color level.

A rural Kansas hospital is full and other area hospitals have refused 106 diversions. Meanwhile, their staff "bullpen" is empty due to many having Covid themselves. One caveat within this story though: "Case numbers have increased and its county has opted out of Gov. Laura Kelly’s latest mask mandate." I find it hard to feel bad for the county based on that type of leadership. https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/mid-south/kansas-hospital-runs-out-of-staff-as-virus-spreads-highlights-crisis-in-rural-communities/

John Crist

I completely agree with not making anyone take it. This may come off as harsh, but at that point you let Darwinism run its course for those who decline. You would undoubtedly hear a cry concerning citizens subsidizing those who can't afford the costs of treatment who contract COVID after refusing the vaccine, but that is a cost of living in this country under currents laws.

https://www.wane.com/community/health/coronavirus/can-your-boss-fire-you-for-refusing-to-get-a-covid-19-vaccine-yes/

Probably Bill. I've often wondered if that was the case about sending out a "common message", even if the local offices didn't agree.

Pretty windy and dry. URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard CA 129 PM PST Sun Dec 6 2020 ...RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM MONDAY THROUGH 10 PM TUESDAY FOR MUCH OF LOS ANGELES AND VENTURA COUNTIES DUE TO GUSTY NORTHEAST WINDS AND LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY... ...RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 2 PM MONDAY THROUGH NOON TUESDAY FOR THE SANTA BARBARA AND SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY MOUNTAINS, FOOTHILLS, AND COASTAL AREAS AND SANTA YNEZ VALLEY DUE TO GUSTY NORTHEAST TO EAST WINDS AND LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY... .Another Santa Ana wind event is expected to begin late tonight night and continue through Tuesday evening. The Santa Ana winds are expected to peak in strength and coverage Monday afternoon through Tuesday morning when wind gusts of 40 to 55 mph will be likely for the wind favored coastal and valley areas of Los Angeles and Ventura counties, while damaging gusts of 55 to 70 mph will be possible for the mountains (including the Santa Monicas). Also of note with this upcoming event is the upper level wind support likely bringing unusually strong northeast to east winds across portions of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties, especially in the mountains and foothills, where wind gusts of 45 to 60 mph will be likely from Monday afternoon through Tuesday morning. While humidities are expected to rise slightly Monday morning, a drying trend is expected Monday afternoon through Tuesday when humidities in the teens and single digits will likely be common. Widespread critical fire weather conditions combined with extremely dry fuels has resulted in Red Flag Warnings for all four counties with this event.

I may have missed it if there was a discussion about weather influences on the West coast, but highs in the 70's wouldn't necessarily drive people indoors in LA more than usual. Just pandemic fatigue?

I agree with people needing help asap. I know that it makes it more complicated, but I would propose that form to be filled out similar to a W-4 sinifiying that you will get the shot when it becomes available. If you don't receive it when offered, it becomes a tax liability and the IRS would ultimately be responsible for collecting it if not voluntarily repaid.

Sounds like a good plan to me. "Former Democratic congressman and presidential candidate John Delaney has suggested giving Americans who are willing to take a coronavirus vaccine a $1,500 stimulus check." https://www.wane.com/news/stimulus-checks-would-a-1500-payment-make-you-more-likely-to-get-a-covid-vaccine/

I'm fearful that beavis is going to be a victim of climate change.

I give up.

If that's even accurate (which I doubt), the reason is because the Federal government propped up the economy with $2.59 trillion as of September 1st. Without further bailout money being appropriated soon, you're going to audibly hear the flushing sound as the economy goes down the toilet. EDIT: Oh, and here's the link to this factual data. https://datalab.usaspending.gov/federal-covid-funding/

The local mayor tried to put some teeth into Governor Holcomb's mask mandate last week by announcing that at the officer's discretion, a $25 ordinance violation fine will be levied and escalating for repeat offenses. Of course, a protest is being planned for this Saturday, with at least one of the planners being a local businessman. I considered going into his restaurant with a mask but no shoes or shirt just to see if I get a reaction. Unfortunately, it probably wouldn't phase him, although it would make a point. In the meantime, my father-in-law just tested positive. I'm sure glad that my wife and I refused to go to her family's Thanksgiving get together.

Bowling balls sometimes are spread the wealth type storms, but even they usually don't cover the whole subforum.

Put your money on the Euro and save yourself some heartache.

In the immortal words of Alex and Cyclone77..... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.. Tonight Partly cloudy, with a low around 25. West wind 10 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph. Wednesday Mostly sunny, with a high near 42. West wind around 10 mph. Wednesday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 24. West wind around 5 mph. Thursday Mostly sunny, with a high near 42. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 28. Southwest wind around 5 mph. Friday Mostly sunny, with a high near 43. Friday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 28. Saturday Partly sunny, with a high near 41. Saturday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 28. Sunday Mostly cloudy, with a high near 40. Sunday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 27. Monday Mostly sunny, with a high near 39. Monday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 26. Tuesday Mostly sunny, with a high near 41.

It snowed lightly for over 10 hours here yesterday. Total accumulation? DAB

2011-12 says hi.

Snowed constantly here after switching from rain around 6 AM until 1:30 PM. Stuck on the grass during one heavier burst around mid-morning, but has since melted. Awaiting the LES band as it swings through tonight to lay down some accumulation.

I pulled this from IWX's AFD this morning. I read it to mean that after collaboration, they couldn't come to an agreement on totals, so IWX said screw it, we'll let day shift handle it. SYSTEM SNOW IS ALSO EXPECTED OVER NORTHWEST OHIO INTO NORTHEAST INDIANA. SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW ARE LIKELY, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LIMA AREA. AFTER COORDINATION WITH OHIO OFFICES, HAVE DEFERRED ANY HEADLINES FOR THE UPCOMING DAY SHIFT.