And the tropical forum, it was a slow season, so we have to find a gfs/euro battle somewhere. Sticking with my 7.5 prediction for my visit to Downers Grove starting tomorrow. We have to watch the Euro-AI, its been consistent on a surge of 32+ air Sunday morning, Euro has the surge farther east. For now, looks like enough cold air in place to keep it frozen north of Kankakee. The system will be a win for many.