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We never stopped operations in Michigan. Honestly man I’m a supply chain analyst, I think I’d know if I were facilitating the transfer of goods in Michigan or not. In fact we did one project in Saginaw and another in Kalamazoo.

See I think they should have for consistency purposes. It's hard to justify one sector being shut down, when then manufacturing people are doing the same thing but in a factory. Again though the overreach by Gov. Whitmer is deplorable and she should absolutely lose re-election regardless of party. To tell people what they can and cannot buy in stores, and that they cannot go to second homes is insanity. I understand the intent, but this is America.

From the Detroit Free Press... The governor's order also designates "critical infrastructure workers" that will be allowed to continue working. Full details are listed here. These include workers in the following sectors: Health and public safety Child care Law enforcement and first responders Food and agriculture Energy Water and waste management such as trash pickup, plumbing services Manufactures providing essential services during the pandemic Funeral home and mortuary services Transportation and logistics Those supporting food, shelter and other social services for the needy Public works Communications, including those in media Critical manufacturing Financial services Hazardous materials Defense industrial base Workers at key supply and distribution centers Basically all companies have used the two bolded exemptions to continue to running as their reasons. It's why all my friends back home in manufacturing are still working.

All of them. Literally automotive voluntarily shut down, but everything else is running as is.

I see you're from MA, but in the Midwest almost all factories have been deemed essential. I know the company I work for has had no problems, we're even working in the NYC metro area currently.

Well I think the whole issue is a lack of balance. So many of these governors look stupid in my opinion (looking at you Michigan) because THEY'VE ALLOWED FACTORIES TO REMAIN OPEN. I'm sorry but that's the biggest crux of the issue, you are unable to go to your cottage or even buy certain things at the store in some states, but can go work 8-10 hours in a factory with hundreds of people indoors. I think we had to buy ourselves time, and we did that while saving hospital capacity. But holy smokes you're limiting peoples incomes in this instance as well as the economy's ability to produce and sell goods. Those are two very bad things

Based on every project ever lol. I can’t name one work project ever that came in perfectly on time

That’s what SC is allowing. Outdoor dining only which I think is the right move

Oh I agree with social distancing working! But all of precautions we have currently I think will limit exponential growth until we have a vaccine. Also our therapy options have improved via Resmidvir and hospital capacity remains quite safe. But yes you do have to think of the money as well. We have 30 MILLION people unemployed right now and many businesses shuttered. Our economy is not able to manufacture and sell goods well at all currently, and we’re about to see a foreclosure wave that will shock the country.

Yeah it’s probably time to rip the band-aid off and reopen. We’ve stopped it from destroying our health system which is terrific. But economically this is becoming devastating quickly, hell the entire city of Las Vegas is probably going to be unemployed in a month. I think I really didn’t expect it all to wind up being this horrifying. I figured it’d be tough, but we’re staring at thousands dead and an economic depression. Just think it’s time to expect there is no win in this battle

I am thinking we’ve had the wrong approach. Factories should have been closed and retail stores left open lol

It's good timing on this as well. As we are finding out our economy basically can no longer endure this shut down

Yeah in SC everything is packed to the gills. No one is going to sit inside all day when its 80 and sunny. They just won't

It looks like a very quiet pattern ahead for us. That trough is going to park right off the coast and bring 80 degree daily highs here in Lowcountry

That's what sucks about this. It is so frickin contagious things like schools, sports, restaurants, bars and concerts are basically dead until we have this stomped out. Truly terrifying in both its death toll and economic impact, we're basically going to kill the entire restaurant industry

I heard about this. That is absolutely terrifying

I don't buy that for a second. There is no way outside a breeze is going to blow those germs right into someone, haha I refuse to believe that

Yeah cases have gone down to like 160 a day, so very manageable for a state of this size

They've reopened the boat launches, and allowing the beaches to be opened up as well in SC. Also all retail stores will be opened up as well. I'm glad they're doing it as the spread is low, and they're putting in place restrictions based on square footage for all stores, requiring masks, not letting people beach their boats, only allowing 4 people a boat and asking at the popular launches for ID checks to see if everyone is from the same household. Unfortunately due to the economic toll we're going to have to adjust and be able to buy a lawn mower and sofa while remaining vigilant to keep ourselves and others safe

Great quote from a WSJ article by Peggy Noonan today... "There seems no way to avoid this. On the other hand each day America is closed down more people will be out of work and lose a sense of hope. We have to be attentive to that too. What was most disturbing about the 10,000 people who showed up before Easter at a San Antonio food bank is this: They were people in cars. They were not “the poor.” They were working and middle-class people in line for free eggs and bread in America. Twenty-two million have applied for unemployment since the pandemic began, and it’s going to get worse. This is a never-before-seen level of national economic calamity; history doesn’t get bigger than this."

Oof this thread took off but honestly I’m glad. It shows the dire straits we are in with a shut down economy. One thing I’d like to say is with the safety net argument, there really is none for an economy completely shutting down for two months due to a pandemic. I do understand the clamor for a system to Canada as we have excessive poverty and inequality in this country, but personally I doubt any of us have a true problem with that. The majority of us have an insane amount of wealth compared to the average Canadian or Brit, absolutely insane. This economy and its rules are far from perfect but it’s the reason we can have 2000 sq ft homes, boats, golf courses everywhere, cottages in Northern MI. I mean there is no way around it, as Americans like the fact many of us can afford quite a bit of "stuff". I often am in the Toronto area for work and when I’d drive over before moving to SC it would just shock me the lack of commercial development compared to what we see in America.

You're thinking too personally though. It doesn't matter if you're giving people money, the economy isn't producing anything in that time. That's the big issue from an economic principle, we need to go back to making things soon

Regardless what we are seeing is people can’t wait much longer. They may have an extreme stance to protest, but people’s finances are getting rocked by this. Idc if they have take temperatures before entering buildings and require masks of some kind in every indoor setting, this country has to be open by Mothers Day. We have no choice to continue past that

Again though that is easy for you and me to say. I'm guessing you are salaried as a meteorologist, I am salaried in the supply chain field. But my sister (23) is a manager at Marriott and has been furloughed, her fiance (27) is a line worker at an appliance factory who is down to 3 days a week. They've been decimated by this and may have to resort to moving in with my father due to this. Sure we've prevented many deaths, but regardless entire livelihoods and personal incomes are being destroyed en masse by this pandemic. So while I commend many of the actions, some such as in the state of Michigan, have seemed to go too far with their reaction to it. And a perfect example is my sister's fiance who now is living on 60% of his wage because a washer & dryer is not an essential product.

No lol shut down is only Fourth of July week. And then Christmas week thru New Years is shut down. Again though all of these arguments are cancelled by the fact basically every manufacturing business is somehow essential. That’s my point, why is the government telling us what we can and can’t buy but then allowing all factories to run as is. Mask wise the demand is so high because every company is buying them in bulk it doesn’t really matter if construction people are using them, right now everyone is. But believe me the auto industry will be decimated by this. Sales will plummet from this and companies will be so loaded with debt they won’t buy fleet trucks for business purposes. This nation is driven by automotive, defense, heavy duty machinery (Caterpillar) and most of all aerospace manufacturing. Having these industries falter will rattle supply chains and wallets across America.