weatherpruf

4 hours ago, North and West said:

Additionally, putting AGW aside for a moment (not discounting it, just not having it in the conversation for the time being), this is very much like the early and late 1990s for those too young to remember. We’ve had these winters before. (Yes, I know that it’s warmer; I’m referring to the rain and then cooldown then cutter, repeat)

I distinctly remember daytime thunderstorms in or around January 1991, because I remember Sam Champion going over the radar on Channel 7 on the news when I got home from grammar school.


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I bought a big LL Bean winter parka that year, and did not need it until 1994. I've mentioned this before, but so bereft of snow were we in the early 90's that the Star ledger actually ran a headline asking whatever happened to winter? My older relatives would say, remember the snow storms we used to have? Then came 94, 96....and then nada for several years. Thing is, we can and will go years without much snow, but it is obvious climate change is going to make snowier winters harder to come by. In 2010 Philly and the Mid Atlantic had a winter the likes of which we still haven't seen here, but that seems to have been it for them.

22 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

You'll be able to tell your grandkids about the famous winter of 23 with no snow

He will be able to tell his grandkids that he's seen snow.....

23 minutes ago, USCG RS said:

This is America. Expert means nothing to anyone anymore.. er... Maybe they never did? 

Oh, they mean something alright. People just don't like what they have to say.

8 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Pattern looks really good on all the ensembles.  This time looks real .

Get ready 

"I'll fight you with one arm!"

3 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said:

If that’s any semblance of accurate the strip of frozen precip is wildly narrow. The cape went from jackpot to rain in a couple runs. 

A 20 mile stripe of frozen is definitely par for this winter’s course .

FWIW I just sent my SIL back to ME this morning; no snow OTG there in Lewiston area. 

This has got to be the most boring winter here I can remember since joining this site. Day after day of nothing happening....we are just about mid-Jan. I'm already looking at seed catalogs. Hopefully we won't have yet another cool spring that delays planting: I held off til May 31 last year after losing too many eggplants and peppers to cold temps.

Just now, EastonSN+ said:

97/98 must be the closest to this year wrt snowfall.

Believe NYC did not get their first inch till mid March!

It was stormier, and windy. I remember a warm rainy wind that blew my screen door open and shattered the glass, and what a PIA it was to get that replaced. There was a half inch or so late in winter, they didn't bother to salt, and my big Dodge pickup slid down a hilly road before slamming into a curb, ruining the axle. It was a fitting end to a crap winter. I have written before, that I did not touch the snowblower from the end of 96 until the storm of Dec. 2000. There was simply no need. And there were some unbearable summers in there too, like 99. 

23 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

The warm winter has helped Europe a lot with their demand problems and it'll help us too this month. 

Once you accept that it'll be a mild/snow-free winter it becomes kinda nice. Lots of positives.

Only wish there was less rain 

As much as I love a good snow, I'm not missing it that much. It'll be back again. Someday. 

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Those of us who experienced this will remember this storm forever, it was the only HECS between 1978 and 1996

 

Well there was March 93, but in most of NJ it mixed leaving us with 10 inches of icy concrete.

24 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Huge torch signal still there after the rainstorm next weekend. This is going to make a run at warmest January ever 

This is just one of those winters. I haven't needed a real jacket since the brief ice box and have been walking outside in the mornings with summer weight hiking pants and and a fleece jacket. Haven't even needed a hat or gloves.

4 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

You can't broadbrush it like that though, only 3 states are near 80, and there are large pockets of areas (specifically urbanized areas) where it's closer to 60 (much of it because of air pollution-- the number one shortener of life on the planet-- which leads to heart disease, lung disease, asthma, etc.)

This is exactly why we're doing the right thing when we ban diesel trucks and drilling near urbanized areas.

Big  factors in human life expectancy  are improvements in infant and child mortality.  The wealthy even in antiquity could live to very old ages. Also, life expectancy is declining in the USA. 

16 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

You’re still in the denial phases…11-15 day has the tpv bleeding into Ak…ugly 

Was just reading about Europe. I think we are in trouble. The article said this is unprecedented, at least in recorded history. 

58 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

I expect to see spotted lanternflies tomorrow 

I just put the garbage out and there were bugs all over the inside of the trash can. Looked like some kind of fruit flies.

52 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

It’s all we got this winter…..

Yeah, my 20 year old daughter just looked outside and said, we really aren't getting any snow this winter? I said probably not. Remember, she has grown up with some real blockbusters. Stuff I never witnessed as a kid. 

1 hour ago, Dark Star said:

Colonia is close to Woodbridge, but it is not Woodbridge.  Don't forget, some of these snow depth measurements are not accurate and they throw things off.  I will trust Weatherpruf's judgement.  Probably only had 7-8"?

Long time ago, but a foot I would have remembered; it was the last storm I ever used a shovel for, and I remember discussing it with my supervisor the day before. It was a decent snow, but nothing to write home about, and it was a weekend. Other areas had more. We'd just been through the hellacious winter of 94, so this lone event was a story for that reason alone. And compared to the icefests of 94 and the concrete of ice  10 inches of March 93, this one was pretty tame. Frankly, anything under about 18 inches just isn't massive after all I've seen. That said, doubt we'll see even 12 inches for the season this year. Somewhere between 8-10 inches sounds about right. Again, it was a decent storm, but not massive IMHO. Others may feel differently. One other thing, I am literally a stone's throw from Union Co, and if you look at the one map he posted, wide areas there had 8.5 inches. in fact I use the Rahway forecast because Mt. Holly doesn't really work for me. 

2 hours ago, Allsnow said:

You had a foot of snow lol….

I'm seeing 8.5, which is less than even I thought. This is not a massive storm. This is a just a storm. Esp after the previous winter.....

1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said:

94/95. One massive snowstorm in early February. Complete shut out otherwise.

I wouldn't call it massive. At least not in these parts.

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

This feels like a winter where the east coast will get 1 huge snowstorm and that's it.

That would be a win in these circumstances. 

2 hours ago, jm1220 said:

Awesome. If it won’t snow I’m fine with more days like today. Garbage wasted cold is the worst. 

The only thing that could bail this winter out would be Feb 2006 type storm. other than that, I'm thinking selling the big snow blower was the right move. Don't need a big one anymore anyway; don't have to get out for work.

3 hours ago, Allsnow said:

Ugh, my mistake it was 2020. What a awful winter that was for the entire area 

It was an awful year for a lot of other reasons.....in fact not having any snow that year turned out to be a small blessing. Imagine if March had been snowy like some prior years...

10 hours ago, SRRTA22 said:

80 is in reach at any given time. 

It's almost January , it's 1am , it's warm and the birds are chirping. 

We've become Richmond,va 

Yesterday I saw insects flying in the garden. This would have been unthinkable when I was a kid.

27 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I'm actually surprised it got that cold in 2013-14, I thought that winter was all about borderline temperatures and had lots of snow but most of them switched over to rain.

2014-15 had more pure snow and was much colder.

I see April 2000 in this list and going from 75 to 32 on the 9th, was that when we had 1-2 inches of snow in April 2000?

 

IMBY 2015 had a lot of mixing and small events. 2014 was great.

Just a question folks I have not seen Uncle W around to opine on history. Anyone know what happened? I'm not here that often in the warmer months.

1 hour ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Snow isn’t really guaranteed anywhere but the mountains. Even the coastal plain of New England is struggling, though of course they fair better than we do overall. It really comes down to the storm tracks as you point out, and everything that influences them. 

My SIL is down from Maine, Lewiston area. They've had some snow but it's all gone. They expect a little more this time of year.

7 minutes ago, rgwp96 said:

Yawn, 2.5 inches of rain and end with some snow that didn’t  stick 

Might be all we see this month for some of us.