Bubbler86

And the PSU storm!

Is this you?

It is rolling out as we type. Just at the start though.

And Tim....

I think CTP should be hoisting the WWA's soon.

For the southers

Comparing the UK qpf map with the snow map suggests it is predicting quite a bit of the precip to be rain/ice in the LSV Friday night. Lanco has 1/3" of qpf but less than 1" of snow. Temps are borderline on the Icon too as I mentioned before.

Short pump Jack :-(

You are always using your previous job skill set to back out of stuff. LOL. If there is no snow map, it did not happen.

The problem with sim radar is it includes virga (at least I thought it did). Here is an example of GFS to compare. They are rarely perfectly matched though. I was told that the precip on the second panel not on the sim radar is the models prediction of drizzle/light precip that does not show on radar. It sounds like there is a some confusion on this from everyone including me. What would make senses is if the second panel included virga.

I was thinking most post maps showing radar/actual weather as of the time stamp re: the actual predicted radar/ground conditions at 12Z if the map is stamped 12Z. I thought the Pivotal maps I post are equivalent to a radar image/composite panel re: I think this is where the EC was predicting snow to be occurring at this time frame. I know on TT there are separate panels for radar and not, but I do not see that option on pivotal. The highlighted line below suggests to me this map is equivalent to a radar map. I could definitely be wrong but this was how I always took those maps. Until now I did not notice that the maps Blizz posted from WB were not time stamped radar maps.

Icon is a little less....10:1 actually higher in the LSV but here is the Kuch. LSV temps are near 32 for much of the snow so a little lower than 10:1 in the LSV.

Looks similar through 36. ICON PBP magic.

Rgem much slower than the other 12Z's so far. It does not start in the LSV until 6Z Sat Am and continues until about noon Sat.

It was showing that at 6Z as well but actually has a high MB at 12Z for the same time slot.

The Icon will be here to cheer us up shortly.

Central MA rejoices in the Nam12. 1-3 for Southern PA except higher in the Laurels. 3K has a few Lollies in the LSV just over 3 but mostly 1-3 as well for the majority of Southern PA. This is pivotal Kuch. WB will be higher.

I have seen a lot of depictions for tomorrow starting the precip as rain. So JB's 30-1 will not be applying at the start :-). NAM has it raining here at 7PM.

HRRR starts it around 6-7PM at MDT.

Runs the low over NC. Two very divergent camps with the other camp running the low not far below the M/D line.

King (Queen?) HRRR is rolling out right now so all questions and predicts will be solved shortly. it is advertising some snow today for @pawatch and gang.

I was actually looking to see how we compared with last year. 326 pages so far vs. 250 for the whole winter in 22-23.

I did not notice this until now...the forgotten winter thread?

3-4 for much of the 2/3 southern side PA. Sorry about any confusion I more meant little to nothing in MD so PA was the winner.

Not exactly great for us....