EasternLI

Just to be clear. The stuff I'm referencing would be longer term. 2nd half of December. However, could be potential for a fun holiday season if things work out nicely 

27 minutes ago, wdrag said:

Interesting counterpoint... good to have this further discussed, if there is any other science.

Here's another interesting more recent article. This is focused more solely on the qbo modulation of the MJO - NAO response. Interestingly to me, the reanalysis composites had a more favorable orientation of the -NAO response during EQBO than during WQBO years.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07055900.2021.1944045

The results can be summarized as follows:

MJO Phase 3 in WQBO winters

The observations show a statistically significant positive NAO as do seven of the ten models.

MJO Phase 3 in EQBO winters
The observations show a positive NAO signal, which is not quite large enough to be statistically significant at the 5% level. Only one model shows a statistically significant positive NAO signal.

MJO Phase 7 in WQBO winters
The observations show a negative NAO that is significant at the 5% level. Only one model produces a significant negative NAO.

MJO Phase 7 in EQBO winters
The observations show a negative NAO signal that is not quite large enough to be significant at the 5% level. Four of the ten models produce a negative NAO signal that is significant at the 5% level. It should be noted that the observational signal, while not quite significant, is larger than that of the models with a significant signal, which may be related to sample size and variance.

6 hours ago, snowman19 said:

How is it going to propagate east into phases 7, 8, 1, with the easterlies screaming from the Niña all the way to the dateline? They are going to shear the wave to shreds: 

East QBO plus La Niña favors eastward propagation of MJO events.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/16742834.2019.1588064

During a La Niña year (Figure 3(c,d)), the effect of the QBO dominates. For each La Niña/QBOE year (Figure 3(c)), there are 1.7 MJO events, which is much larger than that in an El Niño year and La Niña/QBOW year. The last phase has only 0.6 MJO events (Figure 3(d)). During a La Niña/QBOE year, the MJO can propagate to the western Pacific without being suppressed over the Maritime Continent. During a La Niña/QBOW year, the existing MJO is observed to be enhanced over the Indian Ocean, while it is barely able to pass the Maritime Continent (Figure 3(d)).

Yes, what dmillz said. Looks phase 7 ish to me. That has legit potential to ignite a -NAO too. Perhaps phase 8 after? 

If accurate, December is going to get pretty interesting IMO with a look like this. Really liking some things I'm seeing as of late. Haven't been able to say that in a while. 

Just a nerdy little observation here. The QBO is every bit a temperature oscillation as much as a wind one. Research has shown that this is an important factor in the tropics. Specifically for tropical convection. The tropopause layer ~100mb in the tropics sees warmer temperatures in WQBO and cooler temperatures during EQBO. Generally. So cooler temperatures there can increase instability via increasing lapse rates due to warm ocean temperatures. Increasing convection. This is pretty cool. Check out the temperatures at 100mb this month. Focus on the area around Australia.

Anomalous convection lines up really well with the cooler temperatures during the same time period. 

It'll be interesting to see how things evolve. 

From what I've read, the Indian Ocean and the western Pacific Warm Pool are two areas under increased scrutiny in recent years, and continues to be. Mostly because of projected warming in that part of the world. Most of the research done previously did not look into possible global ramifications only local ones. The following recent paper, for example, attributes the +NAO of winter 19-20 to the very strong IOD of that fall. 

https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/asl.1005

The QBO has been a focal point of investigation in recent years. This upcoming season, La Nina + EQBO, is pretty interesting wrt the MJO. Here's a couple relevant points from the following article. 

Combined effect of the QBO and ENSO on the MJO:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/16742834.2019.1588064

For each La Niña/QBOE year (Figure 3(c)), there are 1.7 MJO events, which is much larger than that in an El Niño year and La Niña/QBOW year. The last phase has only 0.6 MJO events (Figure 3(d)). During a La Niña/QBOE year, the MJO can propagate to the western Pacific without being suppressed over the Maritime Continent. During a La Niña/QBOW year, the existing MJO is observed to be enhanced over the Indian Ocean, while it is barely able to pass the Maritime Continent (Figure 3(d)).

East of the Maritime Continent is good, actually. Hopefully it stays that way. 

What a terrible map. Smoke everywhere. 

Wow

PDS for that one too. 

Tornado warning in Philly. 

Radar lighting up now. Should be interesting. 

Mt. Holly radar is pretty nuts. 

00z Ukie looks very similar to yesterday's 12z run. 

22 minutes ago, Rjay said:

That's not a real model.  It's the metsfan of models.  Or maybe that's the Cras *shrug*.

I thought this damn thing was discontinued lol. Apparently not 

12z Ukie

Ooof 00z Euro

Is it still having trouble organizing.....

Sunrise over Ida.

Really taking off around the center right now.