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  1. On 10/25/2017 at 3:35 PM, ORH_wxman said:

    Surprised PWM has only had one occurrence at the modern jetport site. I assume the 1923 and earlier occurrences were all at the older site. The jetport is obviously right on the water, but it is still a pretty decent snow spot. I would have thought at least a couple times more recently. Winters like '92-'93 or '95-'96....surprised they didn't squeak one out in '68-'69.

    PWM has reports from the Jetport since 1931 ('31-'40 overlapped with Exchange Street downtown to verify consistency). 1940 officially moved to the Jetport, and moved twice with the terminal building, once in 1940 and again in 1988, then automation began in 1994 when we moved to GYX. The Jetport itself is pretty susceptible to west winds for blowing/drifting.

    I can't seem to find the info prior to 2010, but the current snow observer is 2 miles NE of PWM (Deering neighborhood). It's not the best snow location in the sense of obstructions, not like Winthrop sticking out into Boston Harbor.  

  2. On 10/23/2017 at 0:45 PM, tamarack said:

    Found 3 winters, though my records begin in 1920 (I think there are city records 40+ years older) and are missing about 10 years late 20s-early 30s.  Two others showed up in the sort, but were short periods of recording depth to the tenth inch w/o the decimal.

    Tops is 55" in 1923, but their January depths look suspicious.  They recorded 44.8" during that month's first 16 days, and depth climbed from 10" to 55".  Temp never topped 32 during that time, but zero compaction?  A low 40s peak would seem more defensible.
    Next is 1920, topping out at 49" and without as much uncompactable snowfall. 
    Most recently, they reached 40" in Dec 1970, in their snowiest winter on record (141.5") but never got back that deep.
    Their record storm, 31.9" in Feb 2013, was just the opposite of the 1923 depths, with the pack never exceeding 21".

    They also had snow up to knicker levels in Feb 1894, 45" for three days after Valentine's Day. Started the month with 23" OTG and packed on another 24.9" to reach 45". Records do look a little sketchy at that time, just add new snow to current snow depth to get new snow depth.

    There's also Feb 1983 that hit 40 and 41" within a couple days of each other late in the month. 

    But 1970 looks like the first modern era 40" snow depth.

  3. 2 minutes ago, radarman said:

    I can never pass up a chance to wax about 3/01... Jay Peak summit looked like something from way out west.  Sorry for the horrific pic quality.

    Looks like these were taken in the 60s or 70s. A little sepia quality to them. ;)

  4. 18 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

    Some old March 2001 stuff...the airplanes are Sterling, MA airport that I remember grabbing online not too long after the storm...and there's a late February map from HPC on the threat:

    I don't know spring 2001 just seems like psychological warfare to me now. 

    I would be gearing up for golf season and 3/31 there is still 32" on the ground at GYX. More than 20" on the ground until 4/9, and there were still patches of snow until 4/21.

  5. 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

    I don't know what the hell happened to them, but I need to tear my parent's house apart for some good weenie pics I had of 93-94 and 95-96 winters. Back when OceanStWx was being bottle fed still.

    Those were the glory days of snow forts in the driveway. And '94 I could skate to school without falling through the crust on the snow after those Feb ice events.

  6. 3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

    How we do weather in New England:

     

    Winter wx events = patriots

    backdoor coldfronts = '27 Yankees

    tropical threats = Bruins

    High end severe threats = Bobby Valentine Red Sox  

     

    This is New England masquerading as OK during the warm season. If you squint hard enough those could be 7+ lapse rates.

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  7. Just now, ORH_wxman said:

    We all realized a couple days ago it is better to toss weenies and buns around in this thread than to try and steer Jose into our backyards in the tropical thread. I always sort of feel like I'm pretending a 7-9 team is playoff bound when I do that only to realize I was deluding myself the whole time. That 30 point win over the Browns just wasn't what it seemed. 

    Much like the Patriots, we just play better when there is snow in the air.

  8. We had a real nice paster last December. I worked that evening and watched the rain/snow line move inland early in the event. It got to about the Turnpike around here and held with rain for an hour or two. Then it crashed back to the coast and we pounded +SN for a few hours after. 6-10" of heavy, wet snow stuck to everything. Might as well have just set a bomb off between GYX and PWM, with all the trees and wires down. People are still cleaning up the broken limbs around their yards.

  9. 23 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

    Not to be a dikkhead but ... Mount Washington averages a trace or more of snow every summer month and we're talking what ... a mere 2 K lower? - given this summers trough preponderance ...that really should happen sooner rather than later this year; I am not personally shocked to hear that.

    I'm aware, and I'm not shocked either, just corroborating the CAR forecast with obs from this past weekend.

    Katahdin is almost exactly 1,000 feet lower (6,288 vs. 5,267).

  10. On 8/27/2017 at 4:13 PM, MaineJayhawk said:

    I have another date with Katahdin on Friday.  CAR has rain and snow showers in the forecast for 5K.  Prob not a Knife Edge day ... lol

    The rangers swear there were some rimed flakes mixing in Friday night up there. And given how dry it was and with lows dropping into the 30s, I wouldn't be shocked if there was some frozen spitting in there.

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  11. 16 minutes ago, dendrite said:

    Just peeked at MOS and noticed the highs have come down a few degrees for this week. CON was progged 87-89 most days and now it's down to 83-85. These past 2 days have been warm, but these low-mid 50s dews are nice.

    MOS is working about as effectively as April around here. Or maybe our forecasts are about as effective as April. We keep saying 80 but we blow through that to like 85-86 with these big diurnal ranges.

  12. 35 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

    I don't even mind a warm October...though I tend to like some chill late in the month as we approach Halloween and perhaps the first flakes to give a small taste of winter....and maybe one good "cold shot across the bow" in early October or late September to remind us that things are changing. Otherwise I won't pout over 68-70F and sunny in mid-Oct. Sometimes those mostly cloudy and 46F days can get old when we have those colder October airmasses...not really useful for anything unless I'm outside around a firepit.

    Light jacket when you tee off, shorts/t-shirt by the time you hit the turn.

  13. 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

     

    Just get us a Kp index of 9 like October 2003.

    Only time I ever saw legit curtains with the naked eye.

    I think it was September 2014 we were able to see curtains on the far horizon from GYX with a Kp of 6. I may be confusing the date though, because we have been remarkably lucky to see several from GYX since I started working here.

  14. 21 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said:

    It doesn't seem you do.   But, that's fine - I tried to explain why "you were not missing out" at the time you made your post; but you seem to be evading that explanation for whatever reason.   

    to each his own -

     

    I mean K index isn't always the tell all either. A good proxy for sure, but sometimes the ACE data can tell a better story. The May event was between a 5-6 and the aurora was a brilliant show around here for those that didn't have clouds.

    I know at GYX we've had some blah 7s, and amazing 5s (like October 2013 that peaked at a 5).  

  15. 29 minutes ago, tamarack said:

    Congrats to them (and to you!)  One of the camps directly off Rt 27 or more private?  You can sit inside to watch the storms arrive, or scoot up the Mountain Road for a panorama (or Blueberry Hill, off Watson Pond Road for an even better perspective.  And if you like to fish, please help reduce the pike population that's pretty well wrecked what was once one of the finest landlocked salmon ponds anywhere.

    Right on 27. I'm pretty excited about it, if only for the duck at the Village Inn.

  16. 3 hours ago, tamarack said:

    After it destroyed a few million trees in northern MN on the 4th and continued thru the night, it hit Maine 4-7 AM on 7/5.  We salvaged about 3,000 cords of blowdown in our West Region and abutting landowners had it even worse.  Multiple campers were injured by falling trees at both Umbagog Lake and Chain of Ponds.  Not injured but rather surprised were the two campers at Big Eddy (just downstream of Long Falls Dam on Flagstaff), when their tent was uprooted and rolled across the campground at 4:30 AM.  Probably just as well they didn't realize that trees were crashing down all around them like flyswatters trying to squash a skittering bug.  My place caught only the southern fringe, with a 40+ gust or two and a bit of rain.

    How often does this type of system continue thru the night and persist for nearly 24 hr?

    Edit:  I may be conflating this derecho with some other event, but I recall something about its maintaining energy after the bow had dissipated and passing off the mid Maine coast.  Then it curved clockwise over the W. Atlantic and cased some damage in coastal Carolinas.

    There were back to back events there. The July 4-5 derecho, then on July 6th a squall line blew through from eastern NY/Canada. That July 6th one really ripped through the area N of ALY to the Lakes Region with big wind.

    I mean it's not totally uncommon for a derecho/MCS to persist a full day. Many times they can go through a diurnal weakening before convection re-fires from the MCV. Now surviving 24 hours into New England usually takes something more special. Like EMLs and 70+ dew points.

    It also looks like we're going to be neighbors, at least for parts of the summers. My in-laws just got a new camp on Long Pond in Belgrade. Pretty sweet views to the west, so I anticipate I'll be weenie-ing out on a few storms in the coming years.

  17. Holy crap, I'm looking back to see how many warnings GYX issued that day (9) and see that we only issued 37 for the whole year. For reference, BOX issued 84.

    A routine year is in the 100s now. County based warnings did play a role in that though. Still, 37? We've had single events get most of the way to that number before.

  18. 3 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said:

    7/6/99 was my greatest storm of all time.  There was the initial gust front, then a lull, then a solid wall of white that raced across the lake from the NW. It looked like a heavy snow squall.  I stood outside in an absolute whiteout of wind-whipped mist and enjoyed the smell of splintering pines.  I saw basically nothing, but nothing has come close to the loudness of the wind ever since.  It remains the only time wind has knocked over trees on my property.

    A+, would enjoy again.

    Tornado in Barnstead that day, too.

    I can remember taking the weenie ride through Moultonborough to see the snapped tree trunks. There is nothing quite like the bright white of a freshly snapped tree trunk.

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    A wall of 60 knots inbound.

    Also, radar data sucked back then. I'm not even sure VCP 11 exists anymore, and if it does they are getting rid of it soon.

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