Chrisrotary12

I know. And I'm commenting on the fact that for the last storm, the models chased convection/mesolows, but in reality the system didn't and ended up further northwest.

So you're saying its going to track further west than modeled once it doesn't chase the offshore mesolows?

You people need to spend less time on the Miller A v B debate. A storm is a storm and this one wants to track over our heads.

Taking the NAM verbatim, but from this image your telling me the precip wall stops at I95? The bigger issue might just be the surface dew points and it falling out as virga. Eh maybe not, its not that dry.

The 00z Euro op verbatim is really a useless event. 2-3" of snow followed by 0.5" of rain. All in about 6-8 hours. If you wake up to 2" of snow and its washed away by noon, did it even happen?

Starting to think we would all benefit from being 5 posted during the winter. lol

Our Grinch storm showed up 3 weeks late it seems.

Dude...where have you been for the last 2+ years?

At H500, hour 54, it nearly closes off south of Long Island and then at hour 57 its wide open again. If we could get it to close completely at 57 then I think more than just P-Town would be in the game.

Isn't the GFS rain verbatim for Friday? Edit: to start, then the lower atmosphere cools enough. SFC might need some work.

Parade of storms, but verbatim none of them actually have a good high to the north so they're all questionable in SNE. I chuckled when in my head I went: whiff, cutter, NNE, mixed event, mixed event, whiff.

Maybe we can get this to cut to Buffalo and we get severe?

Coasts of Lake Ontario?

For those of us who would prefer this not track up the Hudson or CT River valley...what trends do you think we should keep an eye out for in future runs? Besides the obvious of a storm being present. The whole trough axis 100 miles east, weaker northern stream diving in, greater or less spacing between the southern and northern streams?

GFS was really the first model to sniff out the significance of the Friday system. Perhaps its the 1st to sniff out the strength of Monday?

I clicked over the Dakotas.

Anyone see the 2nd analog for hour 108 via the CIPs analog site?

Our best chance is for the Friday ocean storm to be a dud in my opinion. Sets the stage better for Sunday.

It is incredibly tragic what happened and I am beyond saddened by the loss of life. WalpoleJoe is correct. Even with all of our advancements in technology and science, we are just dust on the wind in the grand scheme of things. The original question was "why were they operating?". I had read that the facility had recently switched to operating 24/7 in an effort to boost production ahead of the holidays. I imagine like most businesses, this one had a quota it was driven to achieve, and despite the warnings, perhaps many felt it was worth the risk to make quota. Or perhaps the building didn't have a storm shelter. Maybe "it can't happen to me" syndrome was present. Who knows at this point? Admittedly, I have a growing frustration with what the holidays have come to represent in our society which was the impetus for the "American Greed" comment. I'm sorry if you are offended. I am frustrated that we as a society now think that the holiday season is now about wealth, objects, and presents. If we as a society would remember what the holidays were originally meant to be about; love, family, and remembrance of whichever religious deity we follow, perhaps the tragedy could have been avoided (at least at the facility). Our opinions on this tragedy or of each other won't change what happens. All we can do know is pray that those suffering are comforted. If you believe in God, the bible tells us that he is a God of comfort. So pray that the families and friends of those lost will be comforted through their suffering. I hope that you all have a lovely holiday season and find time to unwind and be in the presence of loved ones and friends. I also hope that we get a blizzard some time soon.

Loudest thunderclap of year this afternoon. Had to have been within a couple hundred yards.

American greed. Working 24/7 to boost production ahead of holidays.

As expected

When can I expect my 1-2 flurries?

Gonna have to check out tee times available for next week.

I'm inclined to agree with this for all of SNE