powderfreak

None of those max temps are above normal, though the 41F may be right at normal by that time. Lot of low diurnal changes there though. 9F at both the local PWS and MVL right now. Single digits at 7:30pm... yikes.

I like a freezing rain to snow type transition with this one... maybe a quarter inch of glaze followed by 2-3” of snow? Euro maps... it cools it enough to flip to a few hour period of steady snow at the end.

What a Zone forecast for mid November. Tonight...Clear, cold with lows around 1 below. Light and variable winds. My heating bill will suck this month.

What happened to you as a child? lol.

Euro is freezing rain ending as a few inches of snow up this way. Would be wintry appeal... add more frozen/freezing QPF to the ground.

Mid-winter cold. Mid-winter vibe.

Yeah BOS stands out like a sore thumb. Like I said earlier, I think the departures from the 30-year normals compared to other sites is the really telling factor. It's how we know there's been changes at BTV and it's why BOS stands out so much in SNE. The various different climates of each station should be baked into the means already, so seeing really large differences in departures stands out. BOS at -3.5 but PVD at -6.0? That is an enormous difference. That's almost now exceeding the difference between BTV and the interior Vermont ASOS up here.

It was probably 3 years ago now. Just for a visual... I drive by this at least a couple times a week, and I'm convinced the new location is a tick colder because it's also where your car thermometer sort of bottoms out. The old site was the circle to the north literally next to the road and the airport driveway. If you drove off the road there you'd go right through the ASOS, it was as close as a mailbox to the road there. Now the airport does angle slightly south to north... so by moving it down south it lost about 20-30 feet of elevation and it now borders the lowest lying water route through the field. The blue line is the stream path through there. Now if I wanted to find a "cold" spot at that air field, I'm looking for that low spot on the south end of the runway where the water drains.

Yeah I agree those MADIS numbers are on the cool side.... but over the last 365 days it looks like there's been almost zero drift... just very stable. I want to see it back 2-3 years if that was possible for when they moved the station. And I do know around here there are a lot of PWS and other established sites that don't have nearly the diurnal ranges of that frozen air field. It's also literally the last place around here that the fog burns off in the morning. And yeah, speaking of golf courses...that site about a few hundred yards from me at the bottom of the Golf Course hit 3F last night when MVL was 8F. This is the PWS closest to the airport too... I've got this on my bookmark to check too. 9F last night to MVL's 8F. Right now they are both 19F. https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KVTMORRI12 It definitely could be a degree cool or something but nothing that really stands out locally... certainly not like a "yup that's wrong" type look.

Yeah, and there are a lot of PWS stations around here that are all over the place too. The spot I use closest to me along the Stowe Country Club golf course actually seems to run a tick colder than MVL, especially at night. There are all sorts of little pockets. The departures from normal almost mirror MPV exactly though, so the departures seem to be in line with their 30-year normals. I've always gone by the departures to see if something seems out of whack... like BTV always being +2 from the other stations. The BTV/MVL/MPV triangle though all fit their long term departure patterns where MVL/MPV are almost identical, and then BTV is a degree or two warmer.

It’s f’in cold. Another single digit morning and another -15 type departure before tomorrow morning shatters records near 0F again. This month has been obscene.

BTV at -6.5F so far this month... that is absolutely absurd for that warm spot. MVL... -7.9 MPV... -7.8 This is crazy cold. More record lows on Sunday morning. 4.5-5" on the ground.

Ended up with a pasty half inch or just a bit more here at home from the FROPA. Temps well into the 30s started it wet but quickly dropped and now the wet roads are snow covered and slick. Light snow continues as flakes drift downwind of the steadier snows over the mountains. Windy out there now.

Haha I know exactly what you are talking about... holding mic to the sky.

One of those moments where you’re like wait, was that thunder?! Heard one more low rumble just a couple minutes ago too. Line is just hitting Mansfield now.

Yeah looks like the NWS has had a couple other reports of thunder/lightning with this band of snow squalls.

Distant thunder! Squalls incoming and we did hear a low rumble... looks like the radar showed the strike just north of Johnson.

Luckily for you guys, this forum has at least 5 active posters that will experience and share these events...

Snow globe evening. Not much accumulation today, an inch or so at the mountain but flakes in the air a lot of the day.

Snow globe day. NEK must be seeing some good snow today, been like a stable wave all day.

Looks like the low was 0F at MVL.... but spent a long time in the single digits...couldn’t get that last degree to go sub zero. Some light snow up here this morning, big fluffy snow globe flakes.

That’s awesome, I may need to look into that. I just hated melting it.

2/-2 Temps seemed to have leveled off now with the high level clouds.

My heating bill will not be favorable this month at this point. I cannot believe how warm/humid it was for Halloween, less than 2 weeks ago it was dews in the mid-60s....and now there’s 5” of dense snow on the ground and the temperature is sloshing around near 0F.

Holy ballz it is cold. My car said 3F arriving home. I’d think we get 0F tonight. Some PWS are already below zero just NE of here into NEK of VT.