powderfreak

This probably sums up most of it… I still think the whole issue isn’t about people believing the earth is warming or not (again, not talking causality). I don’t think it’s as much not believing science either. Hysteria, doom, and trying to change people’s behaviors are when the plot was lost. I bet most of the US would be in agreement if it weren’t for those few factors added to the discourse.

And the Clean Air and Water Act amendment of 1970 did a lot to fix it. Why not keep going though? It’s sad, but there is no way that Act passes in the United States today.

So you do buy into the idea that at this present time the climate is warming? It seems like a few times you've alluded to a warming climate and accept that... but then when someone else says its warming, you make it sound like its nonsense. Sorry to drag it out, I think understanding viewpoints is important so like to ask questions. I'm mostly curious with: Do you think it is warming? (I do not care how the cause plays into this discussion).

High precipitation anomalies too that led to heavier snowfalls… wonder what could be causing the atmosphere to hold more water up there? I’m stumped.

I do always wonder if everyone just woke up one day, with no memory of the past and political parties and no memory of anyone trying to change anyone else's behavior... if we all just looked at the data now what would the conclusion be? The minute anyone tried to change someone else's behavior is the minute the discussion changed. We need that Men In Black pen to just reset everyone's mind.

Yeah I mean I was just thinking because the earth is warming. Don’t need to go much deeper than that.

Haven’t gotten above the long term average sub-32 hours at CON in October in like a decade, but we just don’t know why. It could change next year.

Yeah, because of the variability of this time of year it's both noteworthy and not, ha. It's a time when single storms can jack up the stake depth and then warmth can melt it rapidly... but still interesting that how we feel like it shouldn't be rare, it's still a higher depth than 67 other seasons on the date. But it's funny because in like 3 days it could be nothing to write home; it can change fast this time of year in either direction. Luckily it looks like we should hold it for now.

It’s important to note that the snow depth at the long term stake is higher on this date than 67 of 70 years. Only three November 6’s have had more snow on the ground at that location in the past 70 years.

Fangs. It’s snowed in SE MA a few times in the last decade. It’ll do it again. #dealwithit even if your results are Delmarva climo from the 1960s.

Thought we had first high in the 30s today down in the valley, but alas looks like we snuck a 40F in there somewhere. Base of ski area never got above 36F with 2-3” of snow cover. Cold day, and getting some flurries now.

Ended up with 2-3” at 1500ft and 7-8” above 3,000ft. Snow depth around 14” up top.

Yeah it’s likely recency bias… at least in town as I’m thinking past decade to 15 years tops. For the base of the ski resort I’d give it at least 1-2 weeks earlier. But looking at BTV’s 120 year data the average first trace (which includes graupel, etc) is 10/15 and first 1” is 11/17 and first 3” is 12/3. And we are probably 1-2 weeks ahead of them. So maybe this is about the average time of the first inch instead of first measurable? I just find the first trace to be dubious sometimes… hail, graupel, etc.

I bet the first week of November down in town is about right to be honest… or at least not outside 1 SD of normal. I feel like less than half Octobers have whitening accumulations, but I’m sure JSpin has data for down low. But I’m not talking a tenth from an intense graupel shower core that’s gone 20 minutes after it falls in mid-October.

On the board in town. Taking the 0.1” ha.

We are flipping over here in town in the valley. For all purposes it’s a white rain but it is just dumping precipitation. Feels like 2F away from a true paste bomb. Bet the hill is getting smoked at 1500+.

Second accums at the base. We had about an inch of slop on Saturday AM. No accumulation to date at home, 750 feet lower.

Yeah those 1500ft+ spots should clean up. Even 1,000ft out that way.

We snow.

Wet snow falling at 1,500ft outside my window.

Solid sunset.

Your cold fronts after a cutter will be great? lol

Whats the scale on that product? Or is it as simple as the color coding is p-type?

6” at the summit stake for depth. It looks a lot nicer than it really is (2-6” of dense snow). But in early November the look works.

November.