Syrmax

6 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

I vote we start a new thread where Syrmax and tim just roast one another. Such random little insults. 

Usually, I'd say we need a storm to end the nonsense back n forth but how'd that work this time?

Just now, tim123 said:

Average 12 to one ya yahoo. If you look back i said ratios would be more 12 13 to 1. Not 10 to one for entire event. Good god. 

Adults are having a discussion. Go back to your room and take your meds.

8 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

The 3rd wave had super high Ratios yesterday, most of what fell in Oswego county was from that not LES...

Harder to figure exact ratios for Oswego cty  and when they occurred based on CoCoRaHS as reports are usually 7-9 a.m., which includes the high ratio LES/enhancement after midnight. And the KART qpf data from NWS for 2/3, 2/4 are "M".

2 hours ago, tombo82685 said:

whatever county it is in, still holds same merit. 

ROC Climate data for the 2 days.  Weighting the ratios  based on % of total precip each day yields net ratio of 11.9:1.   SYZ was 9.9:1 using same method for those days combined. 

1 hour ago, tombo82685 said:

whatever county it is in, still holds same merit. 

Below is KSYZ data for the Storm.  2/3 was 9.3:1 and 2/4 was 10.9:1.  What fell after midnight (today) there was undoubtedly higher ratio. I had 30:1...

2 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

I picked up more than that here over the past 24 hours....more equivalent to Oswego County. Bville seems to do much better than several miles NE by you guys on a NW wind. Right on the line...

You are closer to L.O. and better wind direction, but mostly closer to lake this time, I think.  This stuff was low topped and barely registering on radar.

3 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

Some of the random snow feathers falling are huge!

Good grouping of snowfall reports in no. Onondaga. Looks like double that at in Oswego Cty.

2 hours ago, LakeEffectKing said:

Still snowing nicely in Caz.  2.5" overnight 

Storm total now 16.5"

75" on the season. 

3.0" evening/overnight here.  0.1" melted, spot on 30:1. Almost no radar reflection from it.

1 hour ago, tim123 said:

Don't listen to drizzle boy. 

Douschy.  

56 minutes ago, tim123 said:

Thank you for the back up. That one dude in syracuse is a blowhard. Lol

What a jackoff you are. 

22 minutes ago, tim123 said:

Dude reports of 14 in Marion 13 in Greece and that was this morning. Most areas have picked up a couple more today. Then add lake snow

Really.  This isn't Mt. Tolland. ROC 10-12", I'm buying that. The 14" in Wayne (per NWS PNS) and 20" in eastern Monroe (CoCoRaHS) ctys as of this a.m.? Not so much. 

7 minutes ago, tim123 said:

We all don't rain in snowstorms bro

Should be a good time for you to practice that slantwise snow measuring then.

12 minutes ago, tim123 said:

Looks like totals come tomorrow am will be 12 to 20 monroe wayne county.

Noone seeing 20" in those counties.

18 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

The Prequel to 4: "Revenge of the Sizz"

I'll tell you where the Sizzle is right now...SNE. A friend in CT reporting his "Bomb Storm" 15" has been melted faster than Frosty the Snowman...

1 minute ago, wolfie09 said:

Latest map FWIW...

Saw the RGEM and FV3 looking like that.  WRF-ARW has a stream a bit west of that but shows lakeside east of ROC also getting in on it.

1 minute ago, sferic said:

snowing nicely in Cicero, the 1/4 to 1/3 inch an hour type.

 

Maybe we eek out an inch or two into tonight.

 

Any chance of LES for Northern Onondaga later today into tonight?

I'm sure we can dredge up a Kuchie map that gives us 6+". 

33 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

Maybe I'm missing something here lol 0.6" of liquid x 30/1 ratios would be 18" of snow.. Ratios would be more in line of 13/1..

You are correct Sir.  Didn't have my engineering brain engaged in my response...multitasking...

5 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

Moderate snowfall here with MUCH BETTER flake size than all day yesterday. I love watching the flakes swirl down quickly over watching rice fall from the sky.

So this is what actual dendrites look like? Huh.

37 minutes ago, tombo82685 said:

lowville coop melted down .6 with 8" of snow. Not sure if that liquid number is right, but thats like 30-1 ratios. Seems pretty high honestly. 

Agree.  Noone was reporting ratios that high upstate. Maybe one of the hilltops on the Chattaqua ridge saw that but that's about it.

8 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

@Syrmax was right on with his call. Per usual, heaviest snows skipped over us with Western NY and then Oneida County and up through the ADKs getting more. Some day I will learn to accept the model showing the LEAST amount of snowfall during synoptic snowfall as closest to fact. The winds weren't even from the NE, so I don't think it would be downsloping from the Tug. My observation was it was quite windy, which often seems to happen as well...and shredded/sheared snowflakes.

Could be but i dont think wind was all that high. That was more of a concern for the recent Nor'easter in SNE with winds ripping.  I think the real issue was qpf a touch overmodeled and UVV wasn't impressive...which isn't surprising as this was an overruning or anafrontal system.  There wasn't a strong slp or ULL and dynamics were comparatively weak. Hence, snow growth was not impressive. 

12 minutes ago, CNY_WX said:

Across northern Onondaga County snowfall amounts on CoCoRaHS were remarkably uniform between 7 and 8 inches with ratios just over 10:1. 

Agree, was just looking at that. From SYR, Oswego area to ROC and BUF looks like 7-11" fell.  A little on the lower end of models in general but not far off.  BGM to ALB never got into the 5"+ realm that GFS was putting out.  Overall models did well. The areas in CNY that did best were a bit south of here and had some elevation, again, as was generally depicted in models.  The iffy dendrite size was what I was concerned about and it was a factor here, along with less qpf than modeled (SYZ was generally 1.1-1.4" and we got about about 0.82" IMBY including the rain up front).

2 hours ago, sferic said:

Approx 8 inches in Cicero

 

Hope we can make it to 10 inches by day's end with the lighter snows

Real iffy to get to 10" we'd need another 2-2-2.5" to get there, generally. This 3rd wave looks weakish, maybe an inch.  No idea if any meaningful LES will arise later to "Top off the tank" so to speak.  Always possible here.

19 hours ago, wolfie09 said:

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Kafka was the Chiefs' quarterbacks coach/pass game coordinator the past two seasons. He has been an assistant under Andy Reid in Kansas City since 2017.

The NFL Network was first to report the news of Kafka's expected hiring.

Well at least we'll be able to call the Giants putrid offense Kafkaesque. 

Totals here, 7.5" / 0.73 liquid.  Total ratio 10.2:1.   The 2.5" that fell after 10pm had 0.28" liquid equivalent, only a 9:1 ratio. Up to 10 pm was 11:1.  Odd, would have expected higher, not lower ratio, later in storm.  

Noticed the Rome report here earlier was about a 6:1 ratio.  This is why I stay clear of Kuchie Koo maps.

Just now, tim123 said:

Also reports from you its raining in a snowstorm. 

Don't you have a 384 hr Kuchie map to post?